[mooty]

i dont know what's the relationship b/n mspr and invoice. i dont deal from msrp. i look at invoice. for 2009 cay s, i get 1500 over invoice for both car in stock or ordered. i am in calif, probably the most expensive market in USA.

macster, if you are buying from livermore porsche, DONT. PM me and i will hook you up and beat whatever deal you have in CA. i am not a dealer, but i buy a lot of cars so have a few sales friends who dont rob me blind.

i used to live with in 10 miles of livermore porsche, but i buy from 40 miles away.