[Trader220]

License plates are meaningless, there are laws and PCNA rules which determine what a used car is and what is a demo. A used car is a car which has been titled to someone other than a dealer. No dealer is going to risk playing games with that law or the PCNA rules, there is nothing to be gained in that. A DEMO is a car which a dealer has punched, the miles up to a certain level is irrelevant, the warranty starts and PCNA treats it as a demo adding or taking away any incentives to the dealer.

Storage facilities have no bearing whatsoever on how a car is classified. I have no idea what you mean with the statement…

“What I learned was dealers were overstocked with cars and to the point they were finding "creative" ways to offer them at a discount without at least on the surface appearing to offer them at a discount,”

Some dealers have stock and some don’t, where they store them again has no bearing whatsoever on how the car is legally listed as demo or used.
Many dealers punch new cars and put them in service as a loaner, in fact PCNA has a special classification for a “service loaner” and there are both special incentive money for the dealer on those cars and rules for amortizing the depreciation for later sale so as to establish a legal cost basis for the car. When a dealer punches a car as a “service loaner” he needs to use it as one and there has to be miles and time on it in order for him to be able to write it down and sell it later.

There are still 08 Cayman’s around which are heavily discounted and optioned cars. There are 09 Cayman S’s around all of them come standard with DFI motors and 6 speed gear boxes. NONE are in “storage” yards, they are all in other dealer’s inventory and any Porsche dealer can go into the PPN system and see which dealer has what in inventory, just like I do for clients all the time. Every single car that comes into the country is in a dealer’s inventory from the moment it hits the ground. When they come to port a dealer can elect to have it stay at port for a period of time if he has space issues but its part of his inventory. There is no PCNA facility in Az. All anyone has to do is walk into a dealer and if they don’t have the car he wants he can find the car around the country work a DX with the dealer who has it in inventory and have it trucked to his dealership.

“I like to remember this: Everything a car salesman tells you is intended to get you to pay as much for the car as possible and to buy as soon as possible.”

Just like every other profession in the world there are good people and crappy people who do the job. Some sales people operate under that principle and some don’t and throwing that blanket statement out is naive and uninformed.

Since getting into the business a year ago and having been a rennlisters for many years I have helped dozens of people here get better deals, locate which dealer has the car they want and helped in many ways to clear up wrong statements and opinions which are just not true about how PCNA works, what the rules are governing demo/used/cpo and all other cars. Some of the opinions you present here are just flat out not correct in their factual content.