worf928

Sorry, this is FUD.

Outside of regular DE and/or AX PTV will have a trivial effect of rear pad life.

If going to DE/AX then there’s a lot longer discussion.

CaymanMatt

You will note that I said "concern regarding eating rear brake pads, although maybe not so much in a DD". The question becomes how are you going to use your car? If as a fun DD or road going fun toy, how much benefit will you get from PTV? If none or very little in that type of usage, why spend the money? If it's going to see track time as an occasional DE type of car, do you really want to be replacing rear brake pads every couple trips (as seems to be the case as indicated by threads I've read)? If you are going to run AX or use the car for real track time, the benefit is probably worth the cost.

With the PVT you do get the locking diff but for me & given the expected usage planned for my car, I think PTV probably isn't necessary, which is basically the point I made. YMMV

worf928

Yeah, like I wrote, a longer discussion

I notice LSD, or lack-of LSD, easily. DD or DE that's probably the deciding issue: does the driver notice the difference and does it make a difference to them or not.

If you're DEing you will be replacing brake fluid, front pads, rotors and tires frequently. The additional expense of replacing rear pads twice as often (or with every front pad change) is incremental. Furthermore, as you get better and rely less on PSC the rear wear will decrease in its speed. On a DD, occasional use of the rear pads via PSC doesn't cause the same level of heat soak in the pads and they will last longer.

And none of that is even in the same ballpark as the expense and 'vigorous' debate over DEs and PCCBs.

As always YMMV.

My bottom line is I won't have a Porsche sports car without LSD/PTV and I miss it in our Macan.

Optical TDI

PVT is an option I wish I had. It would be of help in enthusiastic street driving even if someone doesn’t do any track events. Probably safer in inclement weather too.

Omm

To the OP, something Ive learned from the various Porsche forums, is that there are many different types of Porsche drivers with very different needs, usage and priorities. There are some people such as myself that are focused on performance and looks. My car is a DD and I live in San Francisco and Santa Cruz. Others are more into comfort oriented, weekend only cruisers and so on. When asking certain types of questions, it might be prudent to consider this when taking input from such a varied group of people.

By the way, I love PASM and PTV, but they really come alive when the car is driven aggressively and in Sport+ mode, which requires Sport Chrono. I've got 20" wheels and the car is lowered because of PASM. I love the aggressive look, compared to a non-PASM car with 19" wheels, but it's a firmer ride, especially in the city (I grew up north of Boston and went to BU). That might not be worth it for some/most people. I drive a little more cautiously in the city and dodge a lot of obstacles, but when I get on the open road - it's all worth it for me.

ghost_03

QFT. As far as extra track day maintenance, I probably spend more time cleaning rubber off the paint than changing pads. It's an expensive and time consuming hobby, and brake pads are probably a 3rd or even 4th order consideration compared to everything else. Inside tire fire, on the other hand, is a 1st order one for me. PTV was a must-have on my order if only because of the differential. I know aftermarket ones are cheaper/better, but I'm not about to split the case on a brand new transmission. TBH I think it's a little silly these cars don't come with differentials when cars like the M2 do, but option pricing is another discussion altogether.

Michael Atamian

FWIW, I just picked up a Cayman S and it will be a daily driver for me- although I do work from home :-)

What everyone else said- highly individualized based on your needs.

I got premium package plus with 18-way seats, 20" Carrera wheels, leather interior, LCA, sport wheel/heated, power folding mirrors, BOSE, seat heating/ventilation, manual gearbox, plus some cosmetic items like high gloss black handles and tailpipes.

I did not get PASM or PTV. I just didn't think I needed it. Others will swear by them, and they'd be right for their needs. I think the only thing we can agree on is the Porsche Configurator probably drove all of us insane.