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Old 02-08-2023, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rasetsu
… I would think the worthwhile adaptive dampers and limited slip diff account for some of those 22 lbs.
20” versus 18” wheels are also a weight thing…
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pcar81
I’m debating whether I should get a base or T.

I like both.
There are a number of things you get with or can get with the T that you can’t on a Base. SPASM is, arguably, the most important of those. Short shifter.

If that doesn’t matter then it mostly comes down to options that are personal and subjective.

Build the Base you’d want and then build the T you’d want. Print out the build/picture pages from the configurator, stick them on the wall and stare at them until you have the answer.
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Old 02-08-2023, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ldamelio
A GT4 is a track car. Any other use, IMO, is poseur. There's the GTS 4.0 for street use for those who want the NASP 4.0.
I don’t agree with this. I haven’t taken my GT4 to the track yet only because life and work has gotten in the way. But also because I’ve been surprised how civilized the ride is for road trips. It’s definitely a waste if you don’t at least have good roads nearby, but where I live I get to stretch it’s legs whenever I want.
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Originally Posted by ldamelio
A GT4 is a track car. Any other use, IMO, is poseur. There's the GTS 4.0 for street use for those who want the NASP 4.0.

Well, I'd say you're a poseur if you track your car and it's not fully gutted and caged.
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Originally Posted by worf928
Michelin Pilot Alpin

I ordered a factory 20” wheel/tire package; I was happy to see that they came with the MPAs.
What kind of conditions have you tried it in? Would love to hear how they do.
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Originally Posted by c1pher
I have recommended either the base 718 or GTS in the past. Having owned a base 718, I can say that with it having a little less power, it does make it fun to drive from a street perspective. You can drive it a little harder while you barely touch the gas pedal on the GTS and you're in trouble. It's not that extreme, but the GTS has 33% more power but only 10% more torque.
Totally! For the inevitable “commuting” around, I still get to go WOT frequently. A really fantastic package.
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Originally Posted by BondJ
Porsche build great T cars across the model range. Thing is, most don’t get the full benefit. The T is a straight-out-of-the-box drivers car that benefits, most of all, from the lightest possible weight. That means NO options. Absolutely NOTHING to dilute the balance/handling/performance. A (very) baby GT3 if you will. Too many buyers place an order…then tick sh*t loads of options and add weight. May as well buy the S/GTS. Whatever, I agree with NoVACayman…good to see a dirty P car that’s clearly been driven!
Porsche is great at result being greater than the sum of its parts. T is a great example of that. Many also do not “get” the 911R. Both the 991.2 GT3T and 992.1 GT3T are superior specs wise but I find the 911R driving experience more special.
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Originally Posted by worf928
PCCBs. Then you can add a couple pounds of deviated stitching and have the same weight.
If PCCB was available at the time of my order lock, I most likely would have added that.

On the other hand, I am liking the almost unique T caliper finish.
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Originally Posted by Pcar81
Congrats

I’m debating whether I should get a base or T.

I like both.

not that it makes any difference, but the base is 22 pounds lighter than the T.
no options on either
As silly as it sounds, the door pulls help add to the specialness.
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Originally Posted by worf928
20” versus 18” wheels are also a weight thing…
I might get some lightweight 18” wheels as I think the 20” wheels (and even 19”) look a bit on the big side.
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Originally Posted by IndigoInkTaco

Well, I'd say you're a poseur if you track your car and it's not fully gutted and caged.
It’s usually not binary. Why not a Club Sport? Cup car? Where does one stop? F1?

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Originally Posted by ForeverCar
It’s usually not binary. Why not a Cup Sport? Cup car? Where does one stop? F1?
That's my point.
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Originally Posted by ForeverCar
What kind of conditions have you tried it in? Would love to hear how they do.
Sub-zero and dry. Above zero, a bit, and wet. I haven’t driven it on actual snow. Macan draws that duty.

I can’t offer you a comparative analysis of the MPAs versus other snow tires on Porsches. But, so far I find the MPAs predictable all of the time.

My main goal with tires for the winter is a compound that will be well above its glass transition temperature. Sipes in the tread are a bonus.

re: PCCBs. I can feel a difference in the way it handles versus Base with PASM and GTS with SPASM. I have quite probably the last, if not the only, T with PCCB. My SA had to trade some favors to trade his allocation for one that would finish production prior to the 10/31/20 stop date.
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I’ve had both, base and T. T is a little more special. Seems like it drives a bit better.
I left an autocross alignment on the car, because even though I don’t autocross any more….I’m too lazy to change it.
I also like the way the car drives better. Everything but full lock or almost at slow speed. Car no likey.

Can’t go wrong with either. Speed between the two is the same.
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Originally Posted by doug751
That is a beautiful car Chris! Have fun! I love the original poster’s shark blue Cayman also! Awesome!
Thank you! I wish the weather would shape up for me so I can put more miles on it!
For some people looking for a comparison, while this is limited, I can say I haven driven base models and have a few hundred miles under my belt with the "T". The T handles much flatter and more aggressively. The ride is stiffer, but I think I would not call it uncomfortable - Just "communicative". I cannot wait to get this fully broken in and out on the autocross course - I know it will be fun and think it will be quite competitive despite the lower power compared to the other cars in the class.
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