New Cayman 718 GTS 4.0 or Used 911 Carrera?
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New Cayman 718 GTS 4.0 or Used 911 Carrera?
Hello everyone,
I'm new to the forum and a first time buyer. I'm currently waiting on some allocations for the GTS 4.0. I also realized that a used CPO 911 Carrera is around the same price. What is everyone's opinion on which car to get for the same price? I like both models and either works for me. I'm not in a rush to get a car asap.
Also, considering the 718 is going full electric in 2025, would this help the resale value of the GTS? I'm not planning on selling but curious if I need to. Thanks!
I'm new to the forum and a first time buyer. I'm currently waiting on some allocations for the GTS 4.0. I also realized that a used CPO 911 Carrera is around the same price. What is everyone's opinion on which car to get for the same price? I like both models and either works for me. I'm not in a rush to get a car asap.
Also, considering the 718 is going full electric in 2025, would this help the resale value of the GTS? I'm not planning on selling but curious if I need to. Thanks!
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If you like naturally aspirated engines and don't have a need for back seats, I would go with the GTS 4.0. Fantastic engine with sound of N/A engine......and this is coming from a guy that purchased a CPO 911 last year.
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mikedee (03-18-2024)
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Well, since I have a GTS on order my answer is simple, but the other item for you is if you get the GTS you can order everything you want --- color , interior , wheel, options, etc. Lastly, having spent a large period of my life selling performance vehicles and still getting plenty of calls from friends I think it is a rational thought process to make the assumption ICE vehicles will hold strong resale in the coming decade or so. At some point, when the World is electric or on hydrogen or fluxcapacitors, then those ICE machines may thaw out - pun intended.
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Depends on the 911. 997.1? sure if it's a manual. 997.2? hot. 991.1 meh, go newer or older. 991.2 if you are ok with turbos definitely, best interior and exterior looks. 992, yuk, make sure there is a good return policy.
A cayman GTS will likely depreciate a decent amount, but so will all the 911s from current prices except maybe 997s since those are probably as cheap as tehy'll ever get.
A cayman GTS will likely depreciate a decent amount, but so will all the 911s from current prices except maybe 997s since those are probably as cheap as tehy'll ever get.
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Totally depends upon whether you want a sports car driving experience (718 CGTS 4.0) or a grand touring driving experience (991/992 911s). I have owned both and much prefer the Cayman platform as a sports car.
As for depreciation, it's my view that 718 CGTS 4.0 cars are likely to hold value reasonably well, all things equal.
Really in order to decide, you should drive both. Try to get yourself to the PEC ATL (or LA or wherever) and there's a program Mid vs Rear engine: https://www.porschedriving.com/atlan...na-m-peca-mmde. It's $750, which seems like a great investment for your purchase.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
As for depreciation, it's my view that 718 CGTS 4.0 cars are likely to hold value reasonably well, all things equal.
Really in order to decide, you should drive both. Try to get yourself to the PEC ATL (or LA or wherever) and there's a program Mid vs Rear engine: https://www.porschedriving.com/atlan...na-m-peca-mmde. It's $750, which seems like a great investment for your purchase.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
Last edited by HelpMeHelpU; 07-02-2023 at 01:45 AM.
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Depends on the 911. 997.1? sure if it's a manual. 997.2? hot. 991.1 meh, go newer or older. 991.2 if you are ok with turbos definitely, best interior and exterior looks. 992, yuk, make sure there is a good return policy.
A cayman GTS will likely depreciate a decent amount, but so will all the 911s from current prices except maybe 997s since those are probably as cheap as tehy'll ever get.
A cayman GTS will likely depreciate a decent amount, but so will all the 911s from current prices except maybe 997s since those are probably as cheap as tehy'll ever get.
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Thanks, this will be my second car so mostly for weekends or track. I have an SUV so more sporty is definitely something I'd be interested in. I'm just also thinking about long term value and the cost justification for a new Cayman vs used 911
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Totally depends upon whether you want a sports car driving experience (718 CGTS 4.0) or a grand touring driving experience (991/992 911s). I have owned both and much prefer the Cayman platform as a sports car.
As for depreciation, it's my view that 718 CGTS 4.0 cars are likely to hold value reasonably well, all things equal.
Really in order to decide, I should drive both. Try to get yourself to the PEC ATL (or LA or wherever) and there's a program Mid vs Rear engine: https://www.porschedriving.com/atlan...na-m-peca-mmde. It's $750, which seems like a great investment for your purchase.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
As for depreciation, it's my view that 718 CGTS 4.0 cars are likely to hold value reasonably well, all things equal.
Really in order to decide, I should drive both. Try to get yourself to the PEC ATL (or LA or wherever) and there's a program Mid vs Rear engine: https://www.porschedriving.com/atlan...na-m-peca-mmde. It's $750, which seems like a great investment for your purchase.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
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It's not a sports car, and the interior is meh. The exterior looks good from angles but bad form others (there is no angle a 991.2 looks bad from imo, same with a 997). It has a massive ***, especially as a cab. Digital dash sux imo. The quality is a downgrade from the 991.2 from both looks/style and fit and finish (rattles ftl). I can't ever seeing putting that thing around a corner and going ya, nimble! fun! I put the 992 in teh same class as an aston martin or a 8 series bmw. They're almost all PDK which is telling what kind of car it is. It's all about the badge and highway cruising; a big GT bruiser, not small backroad scalpel.
Every PCA event I instruct I look at those and go 'do not want'. Then I cross my fingers I get a student with a 997 or any gen cayman/boxster which is what usually brings a lot of joy riding passenger. This wednesday I actually got a new turbo cayenne to instruct and I was thinking actually I prefer being in this than that 992 over there. I honestly think it was more fun instructing in that because there is joy in doing the unexpected like catching 911s in the corners and passing them in a cayenne.
The only reason I'd be interested in a 992 is because it can fit my daughter in the back and it's new so I could take her on mountain trips, but then it has less luggage space than my cayman so there is no way we'd be using that as a trip car, which is one reason why I wrote off getting one when I could have bought a manual one spec'ed how I wanted for slightly less than my GT4. IMO 997.2s will be future classics everyone is looking for and go to the moon on pricing so there is good chance you can drive one of those for 5+ years and be out nothing. 992s you are definitely going to take a bath on depreciation imo.
Every PCA event I instruct I look at those and go 'do not want'. Then I cross my fingers I get a student with a 997 or any gen cayman/boxster which is what usually brings a lot of joy riding passenger. This wednesday I actually got a new turbo cayenne to instruct and I was thinking actually I prefer being in this than that 992 over there. I honestly think it was more fun instructing in that because there is joy in doing the unexpected like catching 911s in the corners and passing them in a cayenne.
The only reason I'd be interested in a 992 is because it can fit my daughter in the back and it's new so I could take her on mountain trips, but then it has less luggage space than my cayman so there is no way we'd be using that as a trip car, which is one reason why I wrote off getting one when I could have bought a manual one spec'ed how I wanted for slightly less than my GT4. IMO 997.2s will be future classics everyone is looking for and go to the moon on pricing so there is good chance you can drive one of those for 5+ years and be out nothing. 992s you are definitely going to take a bath on depreciation imo.
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Been beat to death…do an advanced search on 911 or Carrera.
Lots of threads: https://rennlist.com/forums/search.p...rchid=45563685
Good luck, I disagree that one is a sports car versus grand tourer.
Lots of threads: https://rennlist.com/forums/search.p...rchid=45563685
Good luck, I disagree that one is a sports car versus grand tourer.
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I have both a 997 6spd GTS and a 981 PDK GTS. Without a doubt, the 997 is the better, more fun car. The 981 is a great car and does everything it is asked of it. The 997 is just more fun to drive. Feels smaller even though they are virtually the same size. Has that analog feel through and through. More feedback through the shifter, steering and seat of the pants. Driving the 981 is fun, driving the 997 is a blast. If I had to give up one, the Boxster would be first. I understand that a 981 is not a 718 but they are similar and will have similar driving dynamics. Yes a 718 will be more modern and have infotainment etc but when I take my 997 out, I'm driving not looking at screens and listening to music. The flat six out the back is enough for me.
YMMV
YMMV
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Totally depends upon whether you want a sports car driving experience (718 CGTS 4.0) or a grand touring driving experience (991/992 911s). I have owned both and much prefer the Cayman platform as a sports car.
As for depreciation, it's my view that 718 CGTS 4.0 cars are likely to hold value reasonably well, all things equal.
Really in order to decide, I should drive both. Try to get yourself to the PEC ATL (or LA or wherever) and there's a program Mid vs Rear engine: https://www.porschedriving.com/atlan...na-m-peca-mmde. It's $750, which seems like a great investment for your purchase.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
As for depreciation, it's my view that 718 CGTS 4.0 cars are likely to hold value reasonably well, all things equal.
Really in order to decide, I should drive both. Try to get yourself to the PEC ATL (or LA or wherever) and there's a program Mid vs Rear engine: https://www.porschedriving.com/atlan...na-m-peca-mmde. It's $750, which seems like a great investment for your purchase.
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
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