718 Boxster Base: Bose, LED/Bi-Xenon, Smartphone compartment and Nav -- worth it?
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718 Boxster Base: Bose, LED/Bi-Xenon, Smartphone compartment and Nav -- worth it?
Getting close to the freeze date on a 6-speed Boxster base model. Things I'm unsure about and wondering if they're worth it:
Bose vs. standard - pretty sure I want Bose - more speakers, power, etc., but on a noisy car, will it even be distinguishable? Anyone have Bose on either 718 and hate it? I can't get to any dealer with one in stock to audition the sound system.
Nav - I know it's obsolete even before it arrives, but how good is the image, how are the voice prompts, etc.? It's an expensive option, and I don't have it/don't miss it on my 2015 Boxster, so not sure if I need it now. Also, if I get the Smartphone compartment, do I lose the USB port in the glove box? It's unclear on the spec. If I get Nav, I might get the Smartphone compartment since I won't need my phone for Waze. Edit to add, Android user, so also curious about what Porsche Connect offers....
Lights: it comes standard with Bi-Xenon, and I really appreciate brighter lights. I live in an area with lots of deer, and want to see them as much as possible.
Bose vs. standard - pretty sure I want Bose - more speakers, power, etc., but on a noisy car, will it even be distinguishable? Anyone have Bose on either 718 and hate it? I can't get to any dealer with one in stock to audition the sound system.
Nav - I know it's obsolete even before it arrives, but how good is the image, how are the voice prompts, etc.? It's an expensive option, and I don't have it/don't miss it on my 2015 Boxster, so not sure if I need it now. Also, if I get the Smartphone compartment, do I lose the USB port in the glove box? It's unclear on the spec. If I get Nav, I might get the Smartphone compartment since I won't need my phone for Waze. Edit to add, Android user, so also curious about what Porsche Connect offers....
Lights: it comes standard with Bi-Xenon, and I really appreciate brighter lights. I live in an area with lots of deer, and want to see them as much as possible.
Last edited by Pedal Wench; 09-07-2023 at 08:55 PM.
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Burning Brakes
Apple Carplay has google maps. Works wonderfully. I use the usb port in the console compartment. Unfortunately, you have to buy an iphone, which I did. So far I have found the iphone inferior to android. Perhaps this would not be the case for Mac users
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Bose, yes. Check the technical specs between base and Bose. Bose gives you 4 extra speakers incl dedicated built in subwoofer. Bose has dedicated amp, base is minimally powered by a card in the PCM. Buy a base if you are replacing the entire system. Much easier to tweak a Bose system with its underlying architecture than the base.
Don't get the smartphone compartment; it's useless.
Drive at night? Deer? Yes get the best lights.
Don't get the smartphone compartment; it's useless.
Drive at night? Deer? Yes get the best lights.
#6
It's a software patch via SD card and wifi connection.
https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...tnz-com-2.html
Or you can buy one of these https://amzn.to/3PtaI24
Last edited by rasetsu; 09-08-2023 at 11:07 AM.
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Traum (09-08-2023)
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Thanks! To do the Android hack, do I still need to add Nav to get Porsche connect, or will the hack replace all of that?
So are the LED's the better light? On my build, it comes with Bi-Xenon, but essentially the same price to add LED or the Bi-Xenon with black surrounds. LED is the best?
So are the LED's the better light? On my build, it comes with Bi-Xenon, but essentially the same price to add LED or the Bi-Xenon with black surrounds. LED is the best?
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Thanks! To do the Android hack, do I still need to add Nav to get Porsche connect, or will the hack replace all of that?
So are the LED's the better light? On my build, it comes with Bi-Xenon, but essentially the same price to add LED or the Bi-Xenon with black surrounds. LED is the best?
So are the LED's the better light? On my build, it comes with Bi-Xenon, but essentially the same price to add LED or the Bi-Xenon with black surrounds. LED is the best?
Yes, LEDs provide the best light output.
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Track Day
For Nav, there is no need to purchase the option since the following (free) DIY mod exists:
https://www.718forum.com/threads/and...-4#post-282432
You basically just need an SD card and nothing else, and it can be done. Apparently it also comes with Android Auto.
As far as base audio (Porsche Sound Package Plus) vs Bose is concerned, I feel like my Cayman's cabin isn't all that quiet to begin with -- a good amount of mechanical noise already comes through the car, and esp from the back. The SPP's sound quality is nothing to write home about, esp in terms of clarity and fidelity, but in my brief moments of listening to a Cayman's BOSE system, I feel like whatever improvements the BOSE system has over SPP, it gets drowned out by the in-cabin noise.
Now, the Burmester system is a whole different story. I've never listened to it in a Cayman, but in a Macan, it is a very high quality system that the former hi-fi aficionado in me really appreciated. But again in the Cayman, I am not sure how much the higher sound quality will be compromised by the higher in-cabin noise.
Bear in mind that the in-cabin noise between a Cayman and a Boxster are a little different. I'd expect the Cayman to be a little more boomy since more sound / vibrations should be trapped in the cabin by the (rear) hatch, and of course if the Boxster's top is down, the sound stage is just completely different.
https://www.718forum.com/threads/and...-4#post-282432
You basically just need an SD card and nothing else, and it can be done. Apparently it also comes with Android Auto.
As far as base audio (Porsche Sound Package Plus) vs Bose is concerned, I feel like my Cayman's cabin isn't all that quiet to begin with -- a good amount of mechanical noise already comes through the car, and esp from the back. The SPP's sound quality is nothing to write home about, esp in terms of clarity and fidelity, but in my brief moments of listening to a Cayman's BOSE system, I feel like whatever improvements the BOSE system has over SPP, it gets drowned out by the in-cabin noise.
Now, the Burmester system is a whole different story. I've never listened to it in a Cayman, but in a Macan, it is a very high quality system that the former hi-fi aficionado in me really appreciated. But again in the Cayman, I am not sure how much the higher sound quality will be compromised by the higher in-cabin noise.
Bear in mind that the in-cabin noise between a Cayman and a Boxster are a little different. I'd expect the Cayman to be a little more boomy since more sound / vibrations should be trapped in the cabin by the (rear) hatch, and of course if the Boxster's top is down, the sound stage is just completely different.
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@Traum thanks for that write-up. I worked in auto audio tuning, and have experienced truly amazing Burmester systems. But as you point out, the amount of (good!) engine noise might mask any improvements the Bose offers, so that was why I asked. Sitting in the driveway, I'm sure the Bose blows away SPP, but on the road, I imagine it gets less obvious. Thanks. When I was ordering my '15 Boxster, I did audition all three systems and the Burmester was incredibly better in the dealership, but on the road, I couldn't justify the upcharge.
I'm leaning towards planning the hack and leaving off nav and Porsche Connect, and going with LED and Bose.
Thanks for all the advice and input!
I'm leaning towards planning the hack and leaving off nav and Porsche Connect, and going with LED and Bose.
Thanks for all the advice and input!
Last edited by Pedal Wench; 09-08-2023 at 05:27 PM.
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Traum (09-08-2023)
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Getting close to the freeze date on a 6-speed Boxster base model. Things I'm unsure about and wondering if they're worth it:
Bose vs. standard - pretty sure I want Bose - more speakers, power, etc., but on a noisy car, will it even be distinguishable? Anyone have Bose on either 718 and hate it? I can't get to any dealer with one in stock to audition the sound system.
Nav - I know it's obsolete even before it arrives, but how good is the image, how are the voice prompts, etc.? It's an expensive option, and I don't have it/don't miss it on my 2015 Boxster, so not sure if I need it now. Also, if I get the Smartphone compartment, do I lose the USB port in the glove box? It's unclear on the spec. If I get Nav, I might get the Smartphone compartment since I won't need my phone for Waze. Edit to add, Android user, so also curious about what Porsche Connect offers....
Lights: it comes standard with Bi-Xenon, and I really appreciate brighter lights. I live in an area with lots of deer, and want to see them as much as possible.
Bose vs. standard - pretty sure I want Bose - more speakers, power, etc., but on a noisy car, will it even be distinguishable? Anyone have Bose on either 718 and hate it? I can't get to any dealer with one in stock to audition the sound system.
Nav - I know it's obsolete even before it arrives, but how good is the image, how are the voice prompts, etc.? It's an expensive option, and I don't have it/don't miss it on my 2015 Boxster, so not sure if I need it now. Also, if I get the Smartphone compartment, do I lose the USB port in the glove box? It's unclear on the spec. If I get Nav, I might get the Smartphone compartment since I won't need my phone for Waze. Edit to add, Android user, so also curious about what Porsche Connect offers....
Lights: it comes standard with Bi-Xenon, and I really appreciate brighter lights. I live in an area with lots of deer, and want to see them as much as possible.
Nav - personally would never purchase on a new vehicle if you own a smart phone. If you have android, as others have pointed out, there are solutions. I was told by my sales rep the USB ports still exist as standard in glove box and center console. I don't think the smartphone compartment charges the phone wirelessly (that would have been the only reason I'd have purchased the option -- I did not.)
Lights - to me it came down primarily to looks, with a preference for LED regardless. I love the aesthetics of the PDLS LED lights vs. bi-xenon. At one point during researching/ordering, it was unclear if the LED lights were available in stock due to supply chain issues. I would have been very disappointed to not have them, but would not have been a deal breaker. Otherwise to me they are a must-have. There is a Nick Murray YouTube video you can search for which shows the difference in brightness between bi-xenon and LED.
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bose is a waste of money. the slight improvement over the base system is just not worth the cost.
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reacp911 (09-09-2023)
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And to make sure I understand this completely, I can hack and access Android Auto on a MY 2024 718? I would hate to discover that they've removed it from the hidden software.