JCtx

The old one absolutely no way; too wide, due to the finger-follower valvetrain. The new 4.0 is reportedly slimmer, but doubt as 'narrow' as it needs to be. Even the 3.4 on our cars is shoehorned in place, with barely an inch or so of space. The 3.8 it's only a bit longer, but not wider, which is the main issue, I think. We'll find out soon enough. But yes, it'd be awesome to get the 4.0 in there, even in an obviously detuned version.

Where did you get that? By the way, that was my theory as well, until somebody said it's out of production, and no way Porsche would bring it back just for a few thousand more... and it made sense to me. If it's somehow still in production, then I could almost bet my house that's exactly what will happen. After all, the 911 GTS had 430HP, which would be a hell of a jump from 385. Then the following iteration would be iffy, but maybe Porsche will design the 982 (718 is just a 981.2) to shoehorn the new 4.0 in there.

JAhmed

As much as I love my car, a 718 Spyder with a 4.0 + 6MT would definitely give me pause...

Pokerhobo

I don't think anything is "settled". I'm of the opinion that the next GT4 and Spyder will be much different than the 981 GT4 and Spyder specifically because the GT4 comes from the GT dept and the Spyder the regular consumer vehicle dept. The suspensions on the two were different. The wheels were different. Same front-end but rear is different. Engine was borrowed from the 991S.

If the GT4 really does get a de-tuned 4L from the GT3, I would be very surprised if it ends up in the Spyder. I think it's more likely to get a tuned version of the GTS engine.

n4v4nod

IMHO you will be disappointed... but time will tell.

m3irish

OMG, I would trade my 981.1 Spyder in a heartbeat for a 982 4.0l MT

GT3 Techno

No Porsche never did that. BTW not Club racers but real factory race cars like the 991.2 GT3 Cup cars...

CAlexio

Whether we know the answer or not, the engine specs are most definitely settled. Those aren’t half-finished miles of the Gt4 and Spyder driving around, those are finished vehicles in black. Give it another week or so until we hear one or both pound around the ring and we’ll have the answer.

Gravs

This is so hard to call. It can’t be the old 3.8 9A1 because they don’t make it anymore. It can’t be the 3.0 T from the 911S because it doesn’t fit. It can’t be the 4.0 because someone says that doesn’t fit plus would they really put that in the non-GT Spyder anyway. Unfortunately that leaves us with a 4-pot with turbo turned up even more, which would be so dull.

Gravs

Also conundrum re pricing. The 718 makes the Boxster more expensive than the Cayman and the and same power rather than slightly less as it was before. So either Spyder will cost more than GT4, which doesn’t make sense, or there will be some slightly screwy price gaps between these and the respective GTS models.

Archimedes

Yes, they do. It's still being used in the TT/TTS. Albeit with two turbos added on.

Gravs

Good point. I don’t think they will modify that for the GT4/Spyder though. It feels like it needs to be plug and play engine like it was last time, except there isn’t one!

Archimedes

Yup. Gonna be a joke trying to get one anyway, so not worth even speculating. Getting excited about cars I can't buy even if I wanted to has gotten old really fast.

tq.3z

I will say though - a PDK turbo 4 spyder is going to be a seriously fast car that will run circles around a gt4 with or without a detuned 4.0 if it (the gt4) only comes in manual.

But yeah everything else about it sucks.

Marine Blue

If anyone doubts that Porsche will make the next Spyder faster and better performing than the last then you clearly haven't been following Porsche for very long. But performance isn't everything, especially when the cars limits are way beyond legal limits. At some point you have to decide what aspects of the car you enjoy most.

jeanrabelais

Well said Afshin.

Make the car light weight and low to the ground and everything else will fall into place IMHO.

Someone mentioned a spyder with a Tuned GTS engine, but isn't the GTS engine already tuned?