pettelli

Just curious as there are so many varying opinions on breakin, What mileage are you doing the first oil change? I know the first service is “free” at 10,000 miles but that also includes spark plugs. I usually target 1,000 miles. I realize Porsche doesn’t use breakin oil. That’s just my approach regardless with any new motor: Wondering other people’s thoughts & opinions.

Westcoast

Only my humble opinion, but I will change the oil once the engine has reached break in, according to my manual 2000 miles or 3000 km. Oh and FWIW here in Canada there is no "free" service at 10,000 miles either.

carrerafanboy

I will likely do an early oil change at 1,000 miles, then another at break-in miles (2,000), and then the standard service interval after that.

Archimedes

I change at 1,000 and then every year thereafter.

kart125

I will do oil change after break in also. Cheap and can prevent problems down the road. This is going to be a keeper... (hummm, I tend to say that after every new car I buy, but I have a feeling this is the real stuff!)

pettelli

That’s a bummer on the “free” service not being included. My dealer tried selling me prepaid services for approximately $1,300 each. I asked for a breakdown on what was included considering the manual says spark plugs at 30,000 miles or 4 years, air filter 20,000 or 2 years at latest. I just don’t see the value. I’m still waiting for a breakdown & cost. They do all the other inspections when you do an oil change: I also asked if that also included the brake fluid every 2 years. Didn’t add up fo me... still waiting for a response.

neurotic

Around 1-1.5k miles then every year regardless of miles.

Westcoast

Interesting because I did opt in and buy 4 years of prepaid maintenance on the Spyder, based on todays prices it save me a few hundred dollars IIRC, but I suspect those prices will go up over the 4 years and so will my savings.

pettelli

Not a criticism. it may be worth it. I just want to know what is included given the only service items I’m aware are the air filter, cabin filter & brake fluid approximately every 2 years. I change my oil every year and the Brake fluid every 2 years on my other Porsche’s. I may be missing something and need the details to make an informed decision. They said that was at a 30% discount! At those prices they are closing in on my 964 15K service which takes 10 hours to adjust the valves alone. If anyone has insight please share....

ISPYA718

If you do it yourself does it void warranty?

Westcoast

I would have to come up with the list of exact things but all maintenance is covered, and now in Canada IIRC the oil and filter is changed every year, brake fluid flush every 2 years, plugs at 4 years... just for a comparison a year ago the 4 year major service on the 2016 Boxster GTS was $2015 alone.

Pokerhobo

I think `1st year/free service` should have been it's own option.

Westcoast

Curious as to why? I always though it would be a good time to get any issues on record for future reference, and although I am pretty thorough, a trained set of eyes going over the vehicle can't be a bad thing or can it?

VVG

I still do not understand why anyone thinks break-in has to do with how many miles one has driven. If you drive at 2000 rpm for 2000 miles and 4000 rpm for 1000 miles, your engine will have made the same number or revolutions. FWIW, every Porsche model with every engine has the same break-in recommendation in the manual. It has to be that way (for legal reasons) for people who can't do the math, or who just have no clue about cars (think about your average base Macan suburbanite), etc.

I would like to think that people who have both the interest and the means to buy these car have the intelligence to see beyond the legal and corporate "party line" on break-in. In fact, the majority of break -n is done within the first few hours of driving. I really am just trying to understand...nothing more. But I am also committed to providing proper information to our enthusiast community.

As far as oil goes, this is my 5th Porsche. I change every year or every 10,00 miles. Never had a problem so I see no reason to do differently.

Westcoast

I think that it is as simple as this, the odometer is the easiest measure to quote in the manual, to the average user there is no way to calculate or determine the number of engine revolutions accumulated in any vehicle (if there is I am listening).

So as for the math, I am pretty good at it, if you have a formula to share, one that isn't just a bunch of WAG's please feel free to post it up now along with the recommended number of engine revolutions required... but please lets not pull out the thumb and hold it up and say " yep, I figure xxxxx revolutions' is about right!" Do you have a reputable study from a trusted verifiable source that has published such a figure for a modern Porsche engine like that in the 718 GT4/Spyder?