PCCB - It's not just the yellow calipers...
05-25-2021, 10:56 AM
#61
Racer
05-26-2021, 04:05 PM
#62
Burning Brakes
I’m likely the only one. But I still pucker every time I change my wheels. And that’s using two mounting guides.
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Goodwood (05-26-2021)
05-26-2021, 04:24 PM
#63
That was my biggest concern as well, but I figured if they were damaged by a company doing a tire change or what not, they would be responsible (assuming you take pics every time when dropping off) and if it was done by yourself or a rock getting stuck in there or something , then at the cost of replacement, it would be an insurance claim (that is what insurance is for after all right, similar to an expensive repair on your house, you would use your home owners insurance).
I also spoke with the service manager at a couple of dealers near me that do high volume and both echoed each other basically. One said she had been with Porsche for 8 years and in that time only has seen 1 chipped PCCB rotor, with the average non-tracked car, an average of 60K miles on the pads and 80K miles on the rotors as far as replacement intervals.
Last edited by TRZ06; 05-26-2021 at 04:35 PM.
05-26-2021, 06:10 PM
#64
Three Wheelin'
Is there a good PCCB vs steel comparison thread, that looks at both performance and cost-benefit analysis?
I was assuming I would stick with steel on a spyder, but considering a shark blue / yellow build, and that nudges me down the pccb route. I will track the car (TBD amount) and have spent plenty of time at tracks on (Porsche) steel brakes (to include self service / maintenance). The difference in braking performance is important, of course, but then so is cost to run those brakes; I am looking for insight.
I assume this topic has been discussed ad nauseum, but PCCB in the Search window gets a million hits. If there is a great thread on this to which you can point me, that would be appreciated. A comprehensive look is important; for example, saying PCCB costs some multiplier more than steel to replace without telling me the respective lifespans isn't the whole picture. If someone has figured out a reasonable $$$/track day (for each type of brake), that would be optimal, especially if paired with a braking power multiplier and fade comparison.
TIA
I was assuming I would stick with steel on a spyder, but considering a shark blue / yellow build, and that nudges me down the pccb route. I will track the car (TBD amount) and have spent plenty of time at tracks on (Porsche) steel brakes (to include self service / maintenance). The difference in braking performance is important, of course, but then so is cost to run those brakes; I am looking for insight.
I assume this topic has been discussed ad nauseum, but PCCB in the Search window gets a million hits. If there is a great thread on this to which you can point me, that would be appreciated. A comprehensive look is important; for example, saying PCCB costs some multiplier more than steel to replace without telling me the respective lifespans isn't the whole picture. If someone has figured out a reasonable $$$/track day (for each type of brake), that would be optimal, especially if paired with a braking power multiplier and fade comparison.
TIA
05-26-2021, 06:55 PM
#65
Rennlist Member
I asked my dealer about that, and he quoted $1k to $3k (this was the SA ballparking). If knew of a reliable source to provide that, $500 to $1k is quite reasonable, and I would definitely consider that. That sounds kind of low, doesn't it? Labor to pull the wheels, the calipers, paint, reinstall, bleed brakes, reinstall wheels (x4). You would want a good mechanic shop that contracts with a good paint shop that knows what needs to be done to properly paint calipers.
Any recommendations in the Dallas area?
The shark blue would certainly be a much more unique / rare color than guards, and that has some appeal. I love both, visually speaking, so...
Any recommendations in the Dallas area?
The shark blue would certainly be a much more unique / rare color than guards, and that has some appeal. I love both, visually speaking, so...
05-26-2021, 07:37 PM
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2XIPA (05-27-2021)
05-27-2021, 11:35 AM
#67
Racer
And my wife was wondering why I was sweating ***** when freehanding wheel changes on a friend's Corvette with carbon ceramics in a hotel parking lot at 10 PM before a track day… 
05-27-2021, 12:13 PM
#68
Burning Brakes
05-27-2021, 12:33 PM
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I would say anything around this size would be good, thick enough to protect and sized to sneak through the spokes or from behind to position over the rotor and caliper, BTW much thicker and they would not fit between the caliper and the wheel barrel. I keep them in a plastic bag with the removed wheel set!You should be able to find this foam a packing supply/moving stores or at a building supply store like Home Depot: Rubber-Cal Closed Cell Polyethylene 1/4 in. Thick x 39 in. Width x 78 in. Length White Rubber Sheet-02-236-0250 - The Home Depot Interestingly not showing in stock anywhere close to Seattle, but you get the idea, you may also be able to find something like this at Staples or Office Depot.
Ethafoam pads
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02-03-2022, 01:37 PM
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@Adrift Is this going to affect your build?
718 GT4RS - Page 362 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
Delays due to PCCB - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
718 GT4RS - Page 362 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
Delays due to PCCB - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
02-03-2022, 01:57 PM
#71
Race Car
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@Adrift Is this going to affect your build?
718 GT4RS - Page 362 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
Delays due to PCCB - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
718 GT4RS - Page 362 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
Delays due to PCCB - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums
As of now, I’m still tracking July 8.
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02-03-2022, 02:22 PM
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Adrift (02-03-2022)
02-03-2022, 02:24 PM
#74
This...way cheaper on the long run. Unless you really need those yellow calipers.....
02-03-2022, 02:25 PM
#75
Race Car
Thread Starter
It all depends on when I find out what, and what my options are. I’d definitely switch back to iron if it saved the car.