Need help on this 3.2 carrera i am buying
#1
Need help on this 3.2 carrera i am buying
Hi. I am just about to pull the plug on this 3.2 Carrera. I am not an expert so need help identifying what mods have been done as I want to bring her back to stock as much as possible.
What I can spot:
Side mirrors
Steering wheel
Seats
Wheels
Side skirt
Rear spoiler
Anything else i missed? Also what should i look out for during pre purchase inspection?
Thanks in advance!!!
Richard
What I can spot:
Side mirrors
Steering wheel
Seats
Wheels
Side skirt
Rear spoiler
Anything else i missed? Also what should i look out for during pre purchase inspection?
Thanks in advance!!!
Richard
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Pull the plug? That's quite the Freudian slip...
#4
Racer
You’re going to spend a fortune returning that car to stock 3.2 configuration, far more than it would cost to find a solid 3.2. You can probably get an exceptional 3.2 for less than this Franken-car project. Hard pass on that one for me.
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Actually, I don't hate it. I guess it depends on the quality of the build. Not a fan of the wheels, side skirts, and door cards. I would return those to stock or resto-modeish. The chrome headlight trim rings are weird too. Let's face it, it's not a purists car and if you want that I would start with a blank (original) canvas and save the headache and the money. Do those things to this car though and you'll have a real head-turner IMHO.
#6
Burning Brakes
I actually think the car looks pretty great as it is. And kind of similar to the other comments, I don't think it would make sense to take this car and restore it to original. Doing that, you'd be taking off a lot of nice stuff, that looks pretty well done, and much of it being genuine Porsche stuff from later years. So I'd recommend to either move on to a different car, or get this and keep it as it is. And BTW, my '85 cab is 100% stock except for the radio and the turbo tie rod ends, so it's not like I love mods.
But anyway, to try to answer the question you actually asked about what is non-original, expanding on your list in post #1, what I see is:
- front and rear bumpers are not from a 3.2 (84-89)
- corner lights are not like the ones on my USA car.
- the 3rd brake light had all kinds of different options about what was "original" depending on year in those years, for cabs especially. My '85 USA car did not come with, and does not have a 3rd brake light. So depending on local regulations, the year, what you like, and how exactly original you would like it, you might research that one.
- front fender side marker lights, if original, indicate a rest-of-world (non-USA) car that should have ZZZ in the VIN.
- there should be a boot (tonneau cover) to go over the folded down top
- wide body = factory or kit? If kit, fiberglass or steel, aftermarket or dealer installed? Might mean a huge difference in value.
- headlight trim rings as chrome is definitely not original, and does not even match the rest of the car. Original would be painted body color, either the thin rings as you have there, or the older style "sugar scoop" rings as you might see in my avatar photo.
- I can't really tell, but those seats look like genuine sport seats, which are great, and in great condition, so unless I'm wrong, those are keepers. They would have been an option on regular 3.2s, or standard on the turbo and turbo-look cars of that era.
- A ton of mostly cosmetic interior stuff: gauge cluster trim rings are not original; shift ****; foot pedals; dash mounted speakers; dash ****/buttons; radio and speakers of course; door handle pulls may be some lightweight factory option, but are not standard and original. IMO they all look good.
But wow, it would be a painful experience to remove all those perfectly good components. As far as value, even if you really don't like them, somebody else will probably like and value it all as it is, meaning the price should reflect that.
But anyway, to try to answer the question you actually asked about what is non-original, expanding on your list in post #1, what I see is:
- front and rear bumpers are not from a 3.2 (84-89)
- corner lights are not like the ones on my USA car.
- the 3rd brake light had all kinds of different options about what was "original" depending on year in those years, for cabs especially. My '85 USA car did not come with, and does not have a 3rd brake light. So depending on local regulations, the year, what you like, and how exactly original you would like it, you might research that one.
- front fender side marker lights, if original, indicate a rest-of-world (non-USA) car that should have ZZZ in the VIN.
- there should be a boot (tonneau cover) to go over the folded down top
- wide body = factory or kit? If kit, fiberglass or steel, aftermarket or dealer installed? Might mean a huge difference in value.
- headlight trim rings as chrome is definitely not original, and does not even match the rest of the car. Original would be painted body color, either the thin rings as you have there, or the older style "sugar scoop" rings as you might see in my avatar photo.
- I can't really tell, but those seats look like genuine sport seats, which are great, and in great condition, so unless I'm wrong, those are keepers. They would have been an option on regular 3.2s, or standard on the turbo and turbo-look cars of that era.
- A ton of mostly cosmetic interior stuff: gauge cluster trim rings are not original; shift ****; foot pedals; dash mounted speakers; dash ****/buttons; radio and speakers of course; door handle pulls may be some lightweight factory option, but are not standard and original. IMO they all look good.
But wow, it would be a painful experience to remove all those perfectly good components. As far as value, even if you really don't like them, somebody else will probably like and value it all as it is, meaning the price should reflect that.
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That's a Turbo tail, not a Carrera tail.
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#8
Drifting
Whoever did that car spent a lot of money an did a clean job.The interior is nice , good seats , no cracked dash , wide body look ... if it’s a steel conversion even better.
Looks like a 964 body style , anyhow depending on the price if the car appeals to you , why not.
I personally would change a few things , but i wouldn’t be ashamed to drive it around with the top down !
Cheers
Phil
Looks like a 964 body style , anyhow depending on the price if the car appeals to you , why not.
I personally would change a few things , but i wouldn’t be ashamed to drive it around with the top down !
Cheers
Phil
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#9
I agree with everybody! It appears to be a very nicely done example of a something or other - and it will cost you a LOT to return it to stock, so walk on by. Unless... it is priced very very cheaply, but I doubt that.
#10
Ok maybe not back to fully stock. Maybe just wheels, paint job and some small items.
Its pretty cheap compared to other porsches i have seen on the market. About usd63k. Cheaper than tiptronic 993, and maybe half price of a manual 964/993
Its pretty cheap compared to other porsches i have seen on the market. About usd63k. Cheaper than tiptronic 993, and maybe half price of a manual 964/993
#13
Burning Brakes
If you want it because you love it just as it is, fine. If you want it to return it to stock, it is a losing proposition all the way.
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