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Old 03-18-2024, 02:44 PM
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Hello! I have been helping my neighbor with her 82 SC. We have been told the turn signal switch needs to be replaced, have not done that yet. However the car is starting to cut out some, mainly when I activate the turn signals. Tach goes down, warning lights come on, and the engine cuts out for just a moment. I also catch a whiff of an electrical smell. It’s not all the time, just random. Is it possible the bad switch is causing that? I have been searching online without much luck! Thanks!
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I had the same issue. I thought that the notorious headlight switch was the problem.
I changed out the turn signal switch and all is well. There must be a symbiotic relationship between the all of the wiring.
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Originally Posted by Hogbus
Hello! I have been helping my neighbor with her 82 SC. We have been told the turn signal switch needs to be replaced, have not done that yet. However the car is starting to cut out some, mainly when I activate the turn signals. Tach goes down, warning lights come on, and the engine cuts out for just a moment. I also catch a whiff of an electrical smell. It’s not all the time, just random. Is it possible the bad switch is causing that? I have been searching online without much luck! Thanks!
start with new switch and headlight relays ..

do not install the new switch without relays would be my recommendation.

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The turn signal / high beams switch (and also the wiper switch) are known weak points on these cars. I replaced both on my '85 many years ago.

If you take the turn signal switch apart, you'll see bendable copper contacts in there. They can get dirty, bent, deformed, etc. I think I tried to clean and shape mine back into form, but probably failed and went for the replacement. But some people with more skill and patience do tune theirs up (this is all from memory about 20 years ago).

I think I remember the main symptom I had was that the headlights stopped working. And the only lighting I could get was to pull and hold the stalk in the "flash high beams" position rather than to push and click it into the high-beams position. That of course elevated the priority of getting a fix here.

As @theiceman says, relays are another issue, easier to swap, and cheaper too, so checking / replacing those first makes sense. I'm still on my originals there.
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Originally Posted by oldskewel
The turn signal / high beams switch (and also the wiper switch) are known weak points on these cars. I replaced both on my '85 many years ago.

If you take the turn signal switch apart, you'll see bendable copper contacts in there. They can get dirty, bent, deformed, etc. I think I tried to clean and shape mine back into form, but probably failed and went for the replacement. But some people with more skill and patience do tune theirs up (this is all from memory about 20 years ago).

I think I remember the main symptom I had was that the headlights stopped working. And the only lighting I could get was to pull and hold the stalk in the "flash high beams" position rather than to push and click it into the high-beams position. That of course elevated the priority of getting a fix here.

As @theiceman says, relays are another issue, easier to swap, and cheaper too, so checking / replacing those first makes sense. I'm still on my originals there.
The car never came with relays, they run the entire headlight current through the switch , that is why he smelled burning . the plunger is likely melting in the contacts, next issue will be hi/lo beam issues.

the relays have to be added to the system

read this thread, there is some good info here on it.

https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...ir-thread.html
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OK then I'm still on my original lack of having lighting relays. Nothing has blown up yet. Thanks for the lead though - I do believe they will be a good addition one day.
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OK then I'm still on my original lack of having lighting relays. Nothing has blown up yet. Thanks for the lead though - I do believe they will be a good addition one day.
yeah usually " one day" is the day after your first switch melts lol.
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Cheaper to add relays now than pay $500+ for a new switch.
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Originally Posted by rstarga
Cheaper to add relays now than pay $500+ for a new switch.
yup .. gets real expensive once the magic smoke that makes everything works escapes.
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Thank you! Yes, the high beams are on all the time now. But, I never drive it at night!! LOL

I guess I will just see if she wants to go ahead and spend the $500

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Originally Posted by Hogbus
Thank you! Yes, the high beams are on all the time now. But, I never drive it at night!! LOL

I guess I will just see if she wants to go ahead and spend the $500
yup she's melted, my buddy had this and believe me it is super annoying even in the day ...



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