Help diagnosing problem
#16
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Sounds like it was a holiday inn express to ! fouling for sure.. I would be curious as to what the other 4 look like. Then you would know if it is a global issue or just these cylinders.
#17
A few weeks ago I drove 300 miles to Putnam, 3 days on the track (est 200 track miles), 300 miles back. Used about 2 qrts if I remember.
The mechanic pulled 2 plugs today (not sure why he didn't pull all 6 since 2 only tells your 30% of the story) and he said they looked great. I get the car back this weekend. I'll pull all of them.
I've heard mixed opinions on oil consumption at the track vs road. Some say it shouldn't matter. I have to believe it does. I'm running to the redline repeatedly and when not in red, I'm at least one gear lower than I would be on the road - keeping rpms very high. And the engine is running quite a bit hotter than any other time.
(before anyone asks, I'm running Brad Penn 20w-50)
#18
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The track tends to emphasize issues - sine my rebuild - I use very little oil - as in not enough to make a difference. I usually don't add a qt and change my oil around 1500-2000 miles - lots of track driving. Before - I would 1 Qt every 6-800 miles - at the track it went to 1 QT every 400 miles - that's when I decided to pull it apart.
5 of 6 exhaust valves had to be replaced because they were out of spec. The intake side was still good.
One was was out of spec - luckily I didn't drop it. That's why I would never shy away from buying a track car with records - typically they are maintained to a higher standard
5 of 6 exhaust valves had to be replaced because they were out of spec. The intake side was still good.
One was was out of spec - luckily I didn't drop it. That's why I would never shy away from buying a track car with records - typically they are maintained to a higher standard
#21
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no but if you don't have compresion it wont ignite .. and be fuel fouled ..
but regardless ,, sounds like you have yourself a nice little project now ...
but regardless ,, sounds like you have yourself a nice little project now ...
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Other 4 looked good although #5 only had 50 # on the compression check. I am making up a punch list to put together a solid lower end and lower compression ratio so I can make an engine that will last. I will post the results when I get the engine out after I get my shop back in a couple weeks.
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Is he referring to fouled fuel or the plug being fuel fouled I did not know, and yes I have a neat little project and i managed to figure out where to get the components for the 3.2 short stroke so I need to decide which way to go.
#24
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post up some pics when you get started .. i would love to see what the internals of such a low compresion engine look slike .. you figure the rings are busted up or bent valves ? I would think for the compresion to be that low something broke good
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The last drive I had before it gave up was a leisurely drive never more than 5 psi I didn't notice a problem until the next day I went out to go somewhere and the car started hard and when I got it started it was noisy. To answer your original question max boost was set at 7 psi (.5 bar) and it made lots of power at that. I think my problem is that the motor was more tired than I thought it was and failed I will find out soon as I decided to go ahead and drop the motor outside and pull it into the shop. I am just as curious as everybody else as to the failure. Who knows maybe I can fix it and put it back in and salvage some summer.
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Well I found this when I pulled the chain housing cover Has anybody ever heard of piston to valve contact causing the nut to back off? When I spun it upside down a bunch of gas probably a cup came out of the intake manifold. All the exhaust valves look good albeit carboned up I am trying to avoid pulling the intake as I have a real good seal on it and so far no one has recommended pulling the intake or the heads most have said set the valve timing and do a leakdown and compression check. I dont have a leakdown rig nor dose anyone in this area I guess I should make one up.