cal44

There is something I don't quite get........well many things. I like the basic street version '74 Carrera's but they tend to be pricey when in nice condition. Folks asking in the thirties. I have a '86 Carrera I bought for $16K and is quite nice. I am speaking of coupes only.

Here we go, why is an '74 Carrera twice as much as my '86 Carrera. Is it just that fewer were made? Am I making this to simple? Is it the cute tail? I expect the worst so lets have it as I am in my body amour.

rusnak

That sounds very high to me.

Here's one that I used to lust after as a kid. I saw it a few years ago at "Euro Cars Sunday". It was for sale, but I don't remember the price. I'd say it was in the mid 20s or so. Honestly I like my 3.2 much better now. But it was nice to run into the object of my desire that drew me into Porsches way back then, and to compare it to one that I have now.

Amber Gramps

Here is your answer....use the link and go way down to the older cars. You would think a 911 is a 911 is a 911...Right? Wrong. Here are cars that start out to be similar with tubs and vins that start the same but one is going for $9,000 and the other for $55,000. It's that pesky little "S"....


http://www.pristinemotorsports.com/soldinventory.aspx

rusnak

I think the Carrera was a 3.0 liter predecessor to the SC. I didn't know they were made in '74 though. I thought they came along later, like 76-77 or so? Time to re-read some Porsche books.


EDIT: oops, that came out wrong, Doug. What I meant to type is that I need to re-read some Porsche books because I am not familiar with the 2.7 liter models, and why the S is worth so much more, as in twice as much......

whalebird

3.0 Carreras are kinda cool cars. I came across a 74, fly yellow/tan, 22k miles for 14,000$ a few years ago. It was really a time capsule and I find my mind wandering back to that car. It was a blast to drive. They were still pretty light and that 3.0 loves to breath. IIRC they were Europe only and didn't have the options like sunroof and a/c that are more common in USA cars. I need to read up as well.

GothingNC

Limited production numbers?

racer

From memory:

There were only some 528 911 Carreras built for US consumption for 1974. US spec cars used the same 2.7l 167hp motor as the 911S of that year. They had rear flares (similar to RS flares, to accomodate 7x15" rims).. Ducktail.. and typically were more highly optioned.

The EURO 2.7L 1974 911 Carrera was basically a '73 RS with Impact bumpers (ie, the '74 body style) These were powered by a 210ish hp MFI motor. Not the same 2.7 CIS motor used in the US.

So.. you have different engines and limited production runs, with the Euro cars having a performance advantage.

The US carreras, imho, were a "trim package".. whereas the Euro ones had more cajones

Then there is the '76-77 Carrera 3.0 that was an SC predecessor with a 200hp 3.0L CIS motor. This was a Euro car as well.

Clearly, the '70s were confusing times

Daniel Dudley

An 86 Carrera is a fine car, but it will not get you into Rgruppe. A 74 Carrera with the right engine might.

Those 3.0 Carreras are super cars. Really about everything most people would desire in a 911. Much like a 3.2 Carrera.

whalebird

+++++1 Daniel. My memory is coming back because of this thread. The 3.0 Carrera has all the good of old and new. A quintesential 911 experiance. A 3.2 Carrera is...well...a great Porsche. Limited production numbers is what sells; the 6000 rpm scream is what people buy.

rusnak

Thanks, I did not know this! The 2.7 with MFI sounds intriguing. If I could learn enough to maintain one, then that would be the next 911 for me. My buddy's 911SC with CIS is a nightmare. The 911 from hell I call it, and it has turned me away from CIS forever.

GothingNC

Confusing how a vehicle not galvanized is worth more when the chassis/tub is almost identical other then the vin

John

mck911

CIS can be quite good when tuned properly.

racer

Niether MFI or CIS or Carbs are an issue, assuming they are set up correctly to begin with and then properly maintianed. My CIS SC was quite reliable. Get some bad gas, or some old vacumn lines and they become troublesome. I imagine there aren't too many shops that work on MFI cars on a regular basis either, simply because of their age and rareness.

I think the OP's real struggle is the many uses of the name Carerra on 911s over the years from specialty model to "regular" name.

cal44

What started this was my viewing of a '74 recently (U.S version). I thought, nice, no smog required in Kalifornia fairly light and that cute tail. Then I figured lbs per hp (U.S version) and that didn't really do anything for me so that is why I would get some opinions as to why the higher cost. I got it now, just seems like it may be a sales gimmick as to the number manufactured, as several of you have mentioned.
Thanks to all

Daniel Dudley

So Cal, what you are saying is that it is a PreSmog car in California.

THAT is a horse of a different color. Perfect for a guy who still plays with cars and stuff. Out here they dont smog cars after 15 years.