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Old 05-01-2012, 08:00 PM
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You guys are going to love this...

Some of you might know I sold my awesome 911 a couple of weeks ago. And I bought an also awesome 997 Carrera S. Great car yaddi yaddi yadda...

So, guess what the first thing was I had to fix on the car?! A leaking COOLANT reservoir (the cap was leaky)!! I guess it's the aircooled gods punishing me

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Definitely manifestation of the Porsche God's wrath... it's clearly revealed in the Porsche scriptures: You shall not use water to cool your engine...
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Next up will be a leaking RMS...

Let's hope the IMS bearing holds up too...
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Originally Posted by Jay H
Next up will be a leaking RMS...

Let's hope the IMS bearing holds up too...
No kidding. I better pray more to the watercooled gods as well.
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I don't mean to be negative... I hope you enjoy the 997. They are wonderful modern interpretations of the 911. Fast, comfortable, great brakes, sound good under full throttle.

I've been burned too many times by water cooled motors...hence my sarcasm. But I wish you good luck with the 997!
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I feel you Jay. No worries
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On behalf of the air-cooled gods: Here's to a speedy recovery to Marlon's 997.
PS: I wish you had the kept your original 911.
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Thanks wOOt. She was fixed pretty quickly. And yes, I wish I could have kept my 911.
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Originally Posted by Marlon Targa 86
No kidding. I better pray more to the watercooled gods as well.
You pray to Harley Davidson?
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Originally Posted by Marlon Targa 86
You guys are going to love this...

Some of you might know I sold my awesome 911 a couple of weeks ago. And I bought an also awesome 997 Carrera S. Great car yaddi yaddi yadda...

So, guess what the first thing was I had to fix on the car?! A leaking COOLANT reservoir (the cap was leaky)!! I guess it's the aircooled gods punishing me
Congrats Marlon, too bad you couldn't keep the 3.2! What year is the 997, it looks like a 997.1 from the Avatar? The IMS was greatly improved from 06' on and actually eliminated in the 997.2. Regardless, it's very rare for a 997.1 to have an IMS failure.
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Originally Posted by SARGEPUG
Congrats Marlon, too bad you couldn't keep the 3.2! What year is the 997, it looks like a 997.1 from the Avatar? The IMS was greatly improved from 06' on and actually eliminated in the 997.2. Regardless, it's very rare for a 997.1 to have an IMS failure.
It's a 2006. If disaster strikes, the warranty should help... hopefully
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+1 for Sargepugs comments. It is very rare and is overblown IMHO and the 2006 had a nice IMS upgrade.
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I agree that the OP should not worry one bit about the IMS bearing due to the car being an '06 and having a warranty (I assume the car carries a CPO warranty directly from Porsche).

However, the threat is real for the '00 to '05 cars and the real shame is that Porsche is burying their head in the sand and letting an $8 under specified bearing ruin an otherwise robust motor design. Porsche should have designed a fix similar to Jake Raby's kit and then did a recall on these 2000 to 2005 motors. There have been enough instances written on web boards and also several specific cases even in my small local PCA that have left owners with very large expenses to fix a pretty high end automobile. For the money people pay for a 997 (and Boxster), there should be no worries of a cheap bearing ruining a $22,000 motor.

No car is perfect, but we should expect more from a high end car manufacturer like Porsche. Porsche dropped the ball big time in designing a motor to a price point and not a motor to last as you would expect from a premium product.

These are just my opinions...
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Sargepug, you have the exact same Targa I had. Minus the silver Fuch spokes. Mine were black.

wOOt: thanks for the pep talk

Jay: I fully agree, hence why I avoided the 2005 and got the warranty. Just a piece of mind.
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Originally Posted by Jay H
I agree that the OP should not worry one bit about the IMS bearing due to the car being an '06 and having a warranty (I assume the car carries a CPO warranty directly from Porsche).

However, the threat is real for the '00 to '05 cars and the real shame is that Porsche is burying their head in the sand and letting an $8 under specified bearing ruin an otherwise robust motor design. Porsche should have designed a fix similar to Jake Raby's kit and then did a recall on these 2000 to 2005 motors. There have been enough instances written on web boards and also several specific cases even in my small local PCA that have left owners with very large expenses to fix a pretty high end automobile. For the money people pay for a 997 (and Boxster), there should be no worries of a cheap bearing ruining a $22,000 motor.

No car is perfect, but we should expect more from a high end car manufacturer like Porsche. Porsche dropped the ball big time in designing a motor to a price point and not a motor to last as you would expect from a premium product.

These are just my opinions...
Jay you are right on the money ... I am sure there are threads at nauseum about this around the net but i do believe the problem is bigger than Porsche would have you believe.
I was at a local Canadian Tire ( like a Canadian Autozone but does repair ) and there was a Boxster up un a flat bed they were bringing in ... i walked my son over to watch as they lowered it off the flatbed...
i was curious as to the failure .... As they tipped back the flat bad an ocean of oil came running down the ramp and i new immediately what it was ... I told the guy dont bother lowering the car as it had to go to Porsche and sure enough the mechanic came out took one look and said "get it out of here "

Internet hype my ***.... this is an all to real and present danger to any 00-05 engine owner..


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