PushingMyLuck

Let's say you bought a 1984-1989 3.2 911. It has 150k miles, and you have no idea of the service history. Let's also say you had $100k just burning a hole in your pocket, and you decided you wanted to make the car "bulletproof" mechanically, and replace EVERYTHING that ever goes in these cars. Can you help me make a "worst case scenario" list of all the stuff that can theoretically (within reason) need repair on a 150k car that has never been worked on? Again, the intent is to make a master list (along with ballpark price) of all the things one might need to address when buying a used 911 SC/3.2

Can someone start the list by pasting their "over the top" service history?

race911

You work with a professional to assess the present condition of the car. Go from there. Anything else is navel gazing.

If you're looking to rebuild from scratch, simply put you WILL burn through your hypothetical budget. And be left with a car that doesn't have much more resale that what it's worth now. In that case I'd suggest finding a museum piece, pay the wildly high asking price, and be assured the car will still be worth that on the back end (if not more) unless you turn it into a daily driver.

theiceman

your post makes no sense. you want to replace everything or within reason, make up your mind.

personally i agree with ken. work with a pro rather than blindly burning through money. when i got my sc i did a hefty bit of maintenance with a list and its on rennlist.

See "the day has come .." thread i just bumped.

PushingMyLuck

No, this is a navel gazing exercise, that serves a few purposes:
1) to gain familiarity with typical 911 issues.
2) to gain an idea of what these things cost to fix

Someone brand new to the 911 world will find it insightful reading,
and give him a chance to research some of the issues in more detail.

PushingMyLuck

This thread has a list of repairs:
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...-has-come.html

PushingMyLuck

Recent major work:
1. Pressure fed tensioner update and chaincase reseal 2. Airbox reseal 3. Major service 4. Constant velocity joint pack and reboot 5. New brake pads front & rear, new rear rotors, machine front rotors and pack front wheel bearings 6. New brake hoses - teflon/steel braided style.

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...s-r-coupe.html

PushingMyLuck

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...intenance.html

PushingMyLuck

I am going to paste a few more lists from some for sale ads. At some point, it will be good to consolidate into a master list.

PushingMyLuck

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...etro-area.html

- Clutch replaced (08/06, 132k miles)
- Momo seats and sliders installed, including fire extinguisher mount (09/06)
- Brown interior replaced with black interior, including brand new custom non-sunroof headliner (04/07)
- Install 944 turbo exterior door latches (05/07)
- Koni shocks, 951 S sway bars, and Hawk brake pads installed (04/07)
- Windshield replaced (06/07)
- Replace lifters, install powdercoated cam cover (10/07)
- Replace coolant reservoir, brake master cylinder, brake reservoir (05/08)
- Install european bumpers, front and rear (10/08)
- Install stainless braided fuel lines, Lindsey Racing billet aluminum fuel rail, new injectors, and fuel damper (10/08)
- Install powdercoated intake manifold and throttle body (10/08)
- Replace all rubber fuel lines at fuel tank, including new fuel filter (02/10)
- Rebuild engine - new rings, bearings, seals, gaskets, valves, valve guides, AFM, and more (04/10 134k miles)
- Install stainless braided brake lines (09/10)
- Rebuild axles, adjust timing belts (03/11 136k miles)
- Replace DME relay (04/11)
- Replace A/C compresor, upgrade to R134a (08/11)
- Replace front lower control arms, alignment (08/11)
- Install Dansk muffler, straight pipe, and good condition factory headers (10/11)
- Install Continental Extreme Contact DW tires (03/12 139k miles)
- Replace reference sensors, reference sensor wires, and rebuild DME (05/12)
- Repair minor accident damage from low-speed rear end impact, replace rear bumper (09/12)
- Install Blaupunkt Stereo w/ iPhone control (12/12)
- Replace rollers, check timing belt, replace water pump gasket, flush brake fluid (03/13)

PushingMyLuck

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...org-miles.html

SC

All Head Studs
All Gaskets and Seals
Piston Rings
Euro Headlights and Tail Lights
Valve Springs + Retainers + Rockers
5 Angle Valve Job
New Carrera Cams
Timing Chain
Timing Chain Tensioners Carrera Hydraulic
Oil Return Tubes
Valve Covers Turbo
Oil Sender
Cat Bypass
Exhaust
Voltage Regulator
Crank Seal
Flywheel Bolts
Transmission Selector Seal
Alternator
Starter
Brakes
Transmission Short Shifter & Bushings

Peter Zimmermann

The possibilities are almost endless, but a professional who is well-schooled in the SC "art" can certainly fill in the blanks.

Daniel Dudley

If I had that kind of money to buy an air cooled, I'd spend a little more up front and buy a gem. In the end, it will be cheaper, and it will probably retain it's value better.

The only reason not to do that, is if you want a DIY build car. There again, finding a car with the mods you might want is still a great way to start.

PushingMyLuck

This Targa has been extensively upgraded from stock. Upgrades include:

HRE 16x8” & 16x9” alloy wheels
Bilstein sport shocks front & rear with custom valving
Autothority MassFlow sensor, chip, intake
Rear control arm monoballs
Brembo GT2 “Big Red” brake calipers & 322mm sprint rotors front
Brembo 928 S4 “Big Black” calipers & 322mm sprint rotors rear
Turbo brake master cylinder & adj. brake bias valve
Stainless brake lines
Weltmeister adjustable swaybars front & rear
Weltmeister swaybar poly bushings front & rear
Sway-away front torsion bars (23mm)
Sway-away rear torsion bars (29mm)
Turbo tie rod end kit
Banana arm monoball & bushing kit
Steering wheel quick release with Momo Mod 08 Wheel (original included)
Weltmeister steering rack spacers
B&B 2-out muffler with cat bypass pipe
Hawk HPS+ brake pads front and rear
RSR lightened flywheel, Sachs racing clutch/pressure plate/TO bearing
Quaife LSD
Shortened 5th gear
Fiberglass RS bumpers front and rear (originals included)

In addition the engine was rebuilt by GK Ltd in November of 1999 for increased output without compromising reliability. Work done included:

Raceware head studs & rod bolts
Mahle pistons and cylinders (9.9:1 compression ratio)
Intake valves
Exhaust valves
Spring cups
Holey retainers
Valve keepers – set
Valve seats – intake/exhaust
Valve guides
Valve seals
Standard race engine rebuild (incl gaskets, hardware, etc.)
Boattail/polish crankcase
Lighten & knife-edge crank
Rebuild, lighten & shot peen rods
Component balance
Surface heads

After the build the engine dyno’d at 268 hp and 227 ft/lbs. All told the previous owner invested over $35,000 just in upgrades. I have 5” worth of receipts, notes, and history on the car. After purchasing the car I have performed a significant amount of maintenance and upgrades. Highlights include:

Full interior new carpet
Replaced sound deadening pads with Quiet Car (5 coats firewall and rear seats, 3 coats floors)
New engine sound pad
New hood struts front and rear
Rebuild and lube of both window mechanisms, door frame adjustment
Brake bleed with ATE Super Gold
Sway bar bushings front and rear
New window switch
DME relay
Main engine fuel line
Idle microswitch
Cleaned MAF and throttle body
Cleaned K&N
Fuel Filter
Spark plugs
Valve adjustment with new gaskets and hardware
Spark Plugs
Replaced misc breather and vacuum lines
LH door stop and reinforcement kit
Transaxle oil change with Redline
Fan belt
Heater backdate
Bridgestone Potenza RE11 tires
Bosch wiper blades

race911

^^^^ Upgraded, or just screwed around with? Not sure what rocket scientist would install a 23/29 set of torsion bars.

(And I guaran_______tee you that 9.9:1 compression on any knock sensor-less 911 engine that sees street gas IS compromising reliability.)

PushingMyLuck

lets see:
car purchase, tow to shop, detailing supplies, battery, tires, rotors, brake pads, brake flex hoses, brake fluid, power steering fluid, wiper blades, motor oil, gear oil, air, oil & cabin filters, plugs, belts, ignition rotors, dizzy caps, bluetooth head unit, speakers, shiny silver gauge rings, all kinds of wax, 'rejuvenating oils', etc. that didn't help,
another round of gear oil, engine oil and filters, windshield rubber seal, misc sunroof parts, window switches, drivers window motor, door lock actuators, strut brace, pss10's, OEM sway bar bushings, walrod bushings, Robin's RSR mufflers, crest, Carrera S emblem, trunk & hood struts, center tail light, MAF sealing ring, misc rubbers & gaskets, key remote batteries, dozens of screws, nuts, misc. hardware, alignment*, m030 bars & bushings, brake caliper rebuild kits, rear wiper delete kit, gas pedal wing, used dash top for eventual alcantara cover, f&r bumperettes, rear fender stone guards, RS motor mounts, 18" ruf wheels & tires, respray, more body gaskets, misc hardware.