Notices
911 Turbo (930) Forum 1975-1989

Possible 930 Purchase

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-23-2014, 06:18 AM
  #1  
Daviboy
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Daviboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Possible 930 Purchase

Opinions needed here. I have finished my soul searching on what I want to do next. There is an 88’ Euro spec 930 numbers matching car with FSH near where I live which has just had a complete engine rebuild by a reputable P-car specialist shop and has ~94,000miles on the clock, completely stock original interior, only issue is a PO has installed an OE 993 body kit and Turbo Cup wheels. Don’t get me wrong the kit is very very good and suits the car to a certain degree but and it’s a big but it is not original to the car.
With the way 930 values are headed it seems like a good deal however the seller is asking ~$45,000 which is a bit steep considering it is not original in appearance. I have checked Hagerty values and they place a condition 3 car at $57,800, however I would grade the car as a 4 based on the body kit and wheels being non stock and that puts it in the $42,000 range. Given that I would need to find front and rear bumpers, sill plates, rear spoiler and OE Turbo fuchs will require an outlay of cash as well and to me that’s at least a $2 – 3,000 hit straight away. I have as yet not seen the car and would have a PPI done before making an offer. The car is fine for now and useable but I would definitely restore exterior to original spec and I would be right at $40,000 for this particular car would anyone disagree?
Attached Images  
Old 02-23-2014, 09:33 AM
  #2  
MUSSBERGER
uninformed gas bag
(contemplating on whether gas bag is one or two words)
Rennlist Member
 
MUSSBERGER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne Beach
Posts: 20,514
Received 171 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

If the car was never wrecked and the motor work fresh your pricing plan is probably reasonable.I do think you are underestimating the cost to take it back to stock.
Old 02-23-2014, 11:06 AM
  #3  
Igooz
Trucker
Rennlist Member
 
Igooz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Permanently Banned
Posts: 4,014
Received 478 Likes on 268 Posts
Default

Turning it back to stock can be a lot of work and money...if you want an original or at least an original looking car you maybe better off buying one...best of luck either way.
Old 02-23-2014, 11:21 AM
  #4  
Porsche 930
Racer
 
Porsche 930's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: 2 O'clock in the Continental US
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I very much agree that you are likely under-budgeting the costs to convert this car back to original configuration.

I noticed you posted this same question on Pelican under 911 Technical, you may want to consider moving it over to the 930 Turbocharging forum.

Your location says; Cape Town, South Africa. Unfortunately I have no idea what the 930 population is like in South Africa. I also do not know what import/tax regulations apply to your country. These factors make it harder for me to best asses your situation.

Best Luck in getting a 930. They are very special cars.

Bud
Old 02-23-2014, 01:53 PM
  #5  
Daviboy
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Daviboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for replies guys and yes I probably am underestimating cost to return to stock, but I already have a lead on a rear bumper, spoiler, sill plates and a few other goodies from a good friend of mine so should get those parts reasonably cheap. As far as the local market goes there is one more for sale which is an 82 with about 28,000 Kms all original but that going for around $80,000 so way beyond my budget. I would do the majority of the cosmetic body work myself so would only be looking at paint which depending on if the car is originally guards red would not be too expensive but then if it needs color change that's another story. I have made the offer on $40K just waiting on a reply. Import regulations preclude me searching elsewhere.
Old 02-23-2014, 04:37 PM
  #6  
fullquack
Racer
 
fullquack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 261
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

For what it's worth,

A complete perfect set of stock Fuch's will set you back at least $1500 [then tires as well}, a complete stock front bumper with 5mph accordion pieces is another $1000, the lower front valance is $400, the lower front rubber piece is $400 as well. A perfect rear engine lid with "tea tray" is another cool $1000 at a minimum. Rear bumper complete with lower extension panels & 5 mph accordion pieces will net you another $1500.

Then there are the front turn signal housings & lens, rear rubber impact ****, gaskets, brackets, etc.

You could get good used items at a slightly lesser price tag, but then they would need to be refurbished, so.....

Then there is paint, so what you have here is a very pricy endeavor to bring the girl back to stock.

Just my .02 worth.

Mark
Old 02-23-2014, 05:28 PM
  #7  
urquattro20Vt
Burning Brakes
 
urquattro20Vt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,143
Received 104 Likes on 79 Posts
Default

Assuming the car in question is the red on epictured - it has an OE _964_ Turbo body kit - not 993. Which looks darn good (of course I'm biased except for the front splitter and big rear spoiler. But thats my opinion...
Old 02-23-2014, 06:41 PM
  #8  
MUSSBERGER
uninformed gas bag
(contemplating on whether gas bag is one or two words)
Rennlist Member
 
MUSSBERGER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne Beach
Posts: 20,514
Received 171 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fullquack
For what it's worth,

A complete perfect set of stock Fuch's will set you back at least $1500 [then tires as well}, a complete stock front bumper with 5mph accordion pieces is another $1000, the lower front valance is $400, the lower front rubber piece is $400 as well. A perfect rear engine lid with "tea tray" is another cool $1000 at a minimum. Rear bumper complete with lower extension panels & 5 mph accordion pieces will net you another $1500.

Then there are the front turn signal housings & lens, rear rubber impact ****, gaskets, brackets, etc.

You could get good used items at a slightly lesser price tag, but then they would need to be refurbished, so.....

Then there is paint, so what you have here is a very pricy endeavor to bring the girl back to stock.

Just my .02 worth.

Mark
But on the bright side the car can certainly be enjoyed as is while gathering up the bits.
Old 02-24-2014, 09:01 AM
  #9  
Daviboy
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Daviboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cape Town, South Africa
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well the offer was turned down he is sticking firm to $45K, given the money required to bring back to stock I am passing on this one. I am now back to the 2000 GT3 which I originally looked at. Just so much junk out there which is represented as a 'good' car. I really dont want another project as I just spent the last 5 years fixing up my old one. Have another project for this year anyway so I am going to go for the GT3.
Old 02-24-2014, 09:39 AM
  #10  
Donaldx3
Rennlist Member
 
Donaldx3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If you can steer clear of projects they can end up costing you much more $$$$ then getting a good one up front
Old 02-24-2014, 11:30 AM
  #11  
Porsche 930
Racer
 
Porsche 930's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: 2 O'clock in the Continental US
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

A proper 930 is a classic and always will be. Sorry to hear that your deal did not work out but I think you made the right decision passing on that one. GT3's are nice cars and I wish you the best times with it.

Bud
Old 02-28-2014, 09:13 PM
  #12  
930robb
Rennlist Member
 
930robb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Nevada City Ca
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Pass on this one



Quick Reply: Possible 930 Purchase



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:00 PM.