Notices
914/914-6 Forum 1969-1976
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rain Tray

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-13-2006, 04:22 PM
  #1  
Brother
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Brother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Del Rio, TX
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Rain Tray

Any benefit to keeping this thing on or off?

It is not currently installed on my car. It looks like it hampers intake flow a little.
Old 11-13-2006, 08:52 PM
  #2  
racer
Drifting
 
racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2,981
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Benefit:

1) Keeps rain water out of engine compartment
2) Does muffle the engine noise a bit

Not sure it ever hampered intake flow. With my stock 1.7 there was no power to begin with. However, removing it made the car lighter, and therefore "faster" Even when you car was built the factory was pretty good at maximizing components for the car "overall". Feel free to keep it off, just don't complain when the car is left in a suprise downpour and won't start.

What kind of motor/intake do you have?
Old 11-14-2006, 12:22 AM
  #3  
Brother
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Brother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Del Rio, TX
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have a 1.7 with 96mm cylinders and pistons which makes a 1911cc overall.

40 IDFs with SSI's and a bursch exhaust.
Old 11-14-2006, 10:13 PM
  #4  
Rouser
Instructor
 
Rouser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Brother
It looks like it hampers intake flow a little.
It doesn't get its air from up there, it gets it from the same place the cooling fan gets it, down below. The engine lid vents air out.

The rain tray prevents ... um ... rain, and just about everything else that can fit through the grating from making a mess & nest all over the top of your engine. Believe me, it's necessary.
Old 11-15-2006, 11:28 AM
  #5  
jimbo3
Rennlist Member
 
jimbo3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,227
Likes: 0
Received 656 Likes on 387 Posts
Default

All due respect to the previous poster, all air for cooling and intake comes in from the engine lid. No air enters the engine compartment from the underside as the shroud is there to prevent it. All production air cooled Porsches and VWs that I can think of are designed that way.

Even without the tray, rain has little chance to douse the ignition system. I ran around for 27 years without a tray and never had a problem with water, nests, pests, etc. However, I did temporarily install it while washing the car "just because". Most air cooled Porsches and VW's have much in the way of preventing rain from entering the engine compartment and it hasn't really been much of a problem.

Without the tray, there is alot more room to get arms, head and a shoulder in there, plus you can hear the engine better which is great when you're cruising around the countryside with the top off. Also, there is marginally better ventilation.

That's my experience. Your mileage may vary.
Old 11-15-2006, 01:40 PM
  #6  
Irishdriver
Burning Brakes
 
Irishdriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,049
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Rouser, you should check your car if it gets air from below. All 914s I know were designed to get cool air from above for combustion and cooling. Warm air and exhaust are let out below.

There should be enough tin around about the engine to prevent the two airflows from mixing.

Brother, another logic for keeping the tray I have heard is that if you levae the tray out, rain washes over the battery taking any acid down into the chassis leg. I don't know if this is true but we all know the chasssis leg rots out.

My opinion is that the airflow on a 1,7 will never get critical enough with it in place for it to affect performance.
Old 11-15-2006, 02:56 PM
  #7  
jimbo3
Rennlist Member
 
jimbo3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 13,227
Likes: 0
Received 656 Likes on 387 Posts
Default

Doesn't matter if the tray is in or not with respect to rainwater washing over the battery as it may wash over the battery in either case. The tray doesn't extend under the grills that flank the lid (the one on the passenger side is almost directly above the battery) or under the gaps between the lid and the surrounding bodywork, so rain may come in on top of the battery, anyway.

-Jim
Old 11-15-2006, 07:06 PM
  #8  
Brother
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Brother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Del Rio, TX
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I haven't even put it up to see how it fits. I've actually never seen a 914 with the rain tray installed. I think I'm going to install a gel cell in an enclosed container or with a rain shield when the current battery dies.

I don't have much in the way of electronics. The Stock FI is gone. I'll be installing a mallory dizzy in a few months.
Old 11-15-2006, 07:40 PM
  #9  
Rouser
Instructor
 
Rouser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Sorry, I misunderstood the post, and got it all turned about. Yes, you get fresh air from above, and evacuate it through the cooling fan down and exit below.

What I wanted to emphasize was that you SHOULD run a rain tray on a daily driver as a precaution, because you're not going to see a major improvement in performance verses the risks of rain and debris creating troubleshooting gremlins.

It just ain't gonna hurt keeping the rain tray installed.
Old 11-15-2006, 07:47 PM
  #10  
Brother
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
Brother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Del Rio, TX
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not a daily driver.
Old 11-15-2006, 11:09 PM
  #11  
Jay Gratton
Addict
Rennlist Member


Rennlist
Site Sponsor
 
Jay Gratton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Merrimack, NH
Posts: 6,567
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I always leave mine on! It probably doesn't make that much difference and if you track or AX it just take it off for that!
Old 12-24-2006, 08:44 PM
  #12  
Joe Ricard
Pro
 
Joe Ricard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Gautier, Mississippi
Posts: 544
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

More noisy with out. But not half as bad as a GT lid.



Quick Reply: Rain Tray



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:35 AM.