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Old 05-11-2022, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by orig944
PET calls for the same all years for US. I would double check the markings on each before swapping. If Pat drives his 944 over and his works in your car, make sure yours does not work in his car to confirm. In fact, maybe do this first instead of risking his ECU in your car.


ok that sounds like it will be a safe option.
Old 05-11-2022, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Acantor
I just talked to Pat and he said that he has an early 85 that works, and he said that we could switch the DMEs to test. Would this work eventhough they are different years (I know there are suttle changes from each year of the early models)
An early 85 DME is compatible with a 83-84 DME. The 85.5+ thru late had a 5V signal for AFM, so you then need to have 85.5+ AFM with 85.5+ DME. Check Clarks Garage
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Originally Posted by T&T Racing
An early 85 DME is compatible with a 83-84 DME. The 85.5+ thru late had a 5V signal for AFM, so you then need to have 85.5+ AFM with 85.5+ DME. Check Clarks Garage
ok so I will put everything on pause for now till we can see if my DME works in his car.
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Old 05-12-2022, 12:48 AM
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If the DME works with starting fluid, it works for gas.

I wouldn't be looking at the DME right now.

You have to see if larger amount of starting fluid and more throttle will make the motor rev up higher.

If this is the case, you are not getting enough fuel.

The steps are systematic. Right now you are playing the guessing game and doing trial and error with the DME.

It doesn't rule out the DME but the starting fluid test takes a few minutes will narrow down the problem significantly.
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Originally Posted by Legoland951
If the DME works with starting fluid, it works for gas.

I wouldn't be looking at the DME right now.

You have to see if larger amount of starting fluid and more throttle will make the motor rev up higher.

If this is the case, you are not getting enough fuel.

The steps are systematic. Right now you are playing the guessing game and doing trial and error with the DME.

It doesn't rule out the DME but the starting fluid test takes a few minutes will narrow down the problem significantly.
I have already done this test and it does run.
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Originally Posted by Legoland951
If the DME works with starting fluid, it works for gas.

I wouldn't be looking at the DME right now.

You have to see if larger amount of starting fluid and more throttle will make the motor rev up higher.

If this is the case, you are not getting enough fuel.

The steps are systematic. Right now you are playing the guessing game and doing trial and error with the DME.

It doesn't rule out the DME but the starting fluid test takes a few minutes will narrow down the problem significantly.
I AGREE
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Originally Posted by T&T Racing
I AGREE
we already know it runs with starting fluid
Old 05-12-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Acantor
we already know it runs with starting fluid
Then proceed with obtaining the spare ECU for testing.
I support your assessment. Let's try the spare ECU

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Originally Posted by T&T Racing
Then proceed with obtaining the spare ECU for testing.
haha alright
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It sounds like you have a line on a spare ECU.
Altough I cannot personally volunteer, since I don't have a 944 at the moment, there is a world where you put your ECU in a flat rate box and send it to one of the folks participating in this thread. They can plug your ECU into their car and see what happens. As far as I know, there is zero risk that a bad ECU can do damage, especially if it doesn't allow the car to even start. I'm sure if you ask, someone will support you in this effort.
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Originally Posted by harveyf
It sounds like you have a line on a spare ECU.
Altough I cannot personally volunteer, since I don't have a 944 at the moment, there is a world where you put your ECU in a flat rate box and send it to one of the folks participating in this thread. They can plug your ECU into their car and see what happens. As far as I know, there is zero risk that a bad ECU can do damage, especially if it doesn't allow the car to even start. I'm sure if you ask, someone will support you in this effort.
Pat is driving his 944 to my house and we will swap it this weekend
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Originally Posted by Acantor
we already know it runs with starting fluid
You know it runs. How does it run under throttle with increased amount of starting fluid? Does it rev up like normal or not?

While it is being revved up with starting fluid, do you know what the injectors are doing in terms with injection pulse frequency via the noid light as do they all increase in frequency with increased RPM as they should?

Also, do the injectors actually open and close spraying into a cup with higher frequency in correspondence to the injector pulse? Also, do they spray corresponding amount of fuel into the cups as the RPM increases with more throttle/starting fluid?
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Originally Posted by Legoland951
You know it runs. How does it run under throttle with increased amount of starting fluid? Does it rev up like normal or not?

While it is being revved up with starting fluid, do you know what the injectors are doing in terms with injection pulse frequency via the noid light as do they all increase in frequency with increased RPM as they should?

Also, do the injectors actually open and close spraying into a cup with higher frequency in correspondence to the injector pulse? Also, do they spray corresponding amount of fuel into the cups as the RPM increases with more throttle/starting fluid?
I did not test throttle with starting fluid, but it ran with the temp sensor unplugged and I reved it and everything was normal.
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Originally Posted by Acantor
Pat is driving his 944 to my house and we will swap it this weekend
Does it run normally all the time with the temp sensor disconnected? Idle smoothly and drive with power?

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Old 05-12-2022, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Legoland951
Does it run normally all the time with the temp sensor disconnected? Idle smoothly and drive with power?
I haven't driven it, but I have run it and reved it and it was smooth. I does not run everytime with the temp sensor disconnected.


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