86 944 Turbo Color Code Mismatch
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86 944 Turbo Color Code Mismatch
Hi, I just picked up an 86 944 Turbo a few weeks ago. I am trying to get familiar with the car saw the badly faded sticker in the back and noticed that it says the LM3A (India Red) paint code, but the car is 100% dark blue. The sticker looks "period" correct based on its aging. It seems the exterior was badly repainted a slightly different shade of blue as some point in its past, but everywhere else is definitely blue. I even checked under the insulation and there is no red to be seen.
Is thus color code mismatch a thing with these cars? Any help or info would be appreciated!!
I also notice is has a UF in the upper right instead os US, what does thar mean?
Is thus color code mismatch a thing with these cars? Any help or info would be appreciated!!
I also notice is has a UF in the upper right instead os US, what does thar mean?
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thanks for the reply!
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Does the vin number on that sticker match the vin on the windshield? It looks like it says 94 under chassis number, a turbo should say 95.
After Type it should say 951, not 944.
There's also a sticker near the fuse box with a vin number, and the chassis number of course is stamped just in front of the battery, but it will have ZZZ instead of AA0.
Do all the numbers match?
After Type it should say 951, not 944.
There's also a sticker near the fuse box with a vin number, and the chassis number of course is stamped just in front of the battery, but it will have ZZZ instead of AA0.
Do all the numbers match?
Last edited by Kurt R; 11-19-2023 at 06:25 PM.
#5
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Do you know if mismatches are a thing with these cars? I may try to call Porsche and see if they can shed any light from a build sheet or something. It is blue under all of the 40 yr old sound deadening material so there is no way it was repainted this color..
thanks for the reply!
thanks for the reply!
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Correct VIN on the tag?
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The VIN in the windshield and sticker next to the fuse block match.
With everything out if it I dont see any signs of a major wreck or grafting of a different car.. Carfax produced nothing either (not bulletproof I know) ..
Very strange..
Also if that "GN" number on that first faded sticker I posted is the last of the VIN it def doesnt match.. maybe there was some undocumented damage or something.. if the rear section of the "donor" car was red, they did a really good job painting the parts, cause there is no sign anywhere of red.. I do see a chip on the front plastic bumper that shows red but I could see a bumper cover from another car being used for damage.. the car was definitely painted on the outside a slightly different color blue (overspray signs) but the inside parts like engine bay, floor, door insides, under the sound deadening are the factory blue color
With everything out if it I dont see any signs of a major wreck or grafting of a different car.. Carfax produced nothing either (not bulletproof I know) ..
Very strange..
Also if that "GN" number on that first faded sticker I posted is the last of the VIN it def doesnt match.. maybe there was some undocumented damage or something.. if the rear section of the "donor" car was red, they did a really good job painting the parts, cause there is no sign anywhere of red.. I do see a chip on the front plastic bumper that shows red but I could see a bumper cover from another car being used for damage.. the car was definitely painted on the outside a slightly different color blue (overspray signs) but the inside parts like engine bay, floor, door insides, under the sound deadening are the factory blue color
Last edited by djmjr77; 11-20-2023 at 12:38 PM.
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There's no way someone pulled that sticker off a red rear end, painted the sheet metal, and then put the sticker back on.
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The plot thickens...
I called Porsche of West Palm Beach and the lady in the service department was nice enough to look up the VIN in her system.
They dont have a lot of info but the color they have listed for this VIN is K3 Vesuvio Metallic, which is a purple/grey shifting color.. I dont even see that color available in 86..
this car is definitely not that color..
So i dont really know whats going on..
I called Porsche of West Palm Beach and the lady in the service department was nice enough to look up the VIN in her system.
They dont have a lot of info but the color they have listed for this VIN is K3 Vesuvio Metallic, which is a purple/grey shifting color.. I dont even see that color available in 86..
this car is definitely not that color..
So i dont really know whats going on..
#11
Three Wheelin'
The plot thickens...
I called Porsche of West Palm Beach and the lady in the service department was nice enough to look up the VIN in her system.
They dont have a lot of info but the color they have listed for this VIN is K3 Vesuvio Metallic, which is a purple/grey shifting color.. I dont even see that color available in 86..
this car is definitely not that color..
So i dont really know whats going on..
I called Porsche of West Palm Beach and the lady in the service department was nice enough to look up the VIN in her system.
They dont have a lot of info but the color they have listed for this VIN is K3 Vesuvio Metallic, which is a purple/grey shifting color.. I dont even see that color available in 86..
this car is definitely not that color..
So i dont really know whats going on..
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The tail of my S2 has been replaced. There's no build sticker, and there are other clues. The "944 S2" on the back doesn't look right, and it is starting to rust where the tail piece joins the quarter panels. There's nothing in the carfax, and it probably wasn't a hard hit, but hard enough it was easier to replace the tail than straighten the one that was on there.
Somewhere I have a photo of my Firehawk 944 with the left quarter and tail panel cut off, but I can't find it right now. That car was a mess.
Somewhere I have a photo of my Firehawk 944 with the left quarter and tail panel cut off, but I can't find it right now. That car was a mess.
#14
Thanks for the comments.. I starting to get on the wrong sticker bandwagon. I know what something looks like that's been repainted, welded.. etc and there are zero signs of that. I have looked closely at seams and places where you cant really get paint easily, and no red. As someone else stated, it's doubtful someone removed the sticker, painted the car and put the sticker back.
The car came with some papers of parts purchases before the previous owner, and the car fax shows it move from Cali in 98 to Florida in 2010 with mileage agreeing l, no weird jumps.
Regardung the color, since that color was not available to the 944s in 86, it's probably just Porsches pre 2000 record keeping issues.PCA says it only came on 911s starting in 2007. Maybe I should do a down to the frame resto and paint it that color.. rarest 951 on the planet
Now I just need to get it running right so I can drive it
Thanks again for all helpful comments!
The car came with some papers of parts purchases before the previous owner, and the car fax shows it move from Cali in 98 to Florida in 2010 with mileage agreeing l, no weird jumps.
Regardung the color, since that color was not available to the 944s in 86, it's probably just Porsches pre 2000 record keeping issues.PCA says it only came on 911s starting in 2007. Maybe I should do a down to the frame resto and paint it that color.. rarest 951 on the planet
Now I just need to get it running right so I can drive it
Thanks again for all helpful comments!
Last edited by djmjr77; 11-20-2023 at 10:53 PM.
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Just curious if you have the warranty booklet that came with the owners manual when the car was new. If you have the warranty booklet, open it up and see if the sticker in your booklet matches the vin tag by the windshield or the options sticker in the hatch by the tail light. Should look like this: