Parts Cross Reference

dnwong · 09-07-2006, 07:34 PM

Sometime ago, I was reading a thread about the cheap version of the ref and speed sensors. By the time I needed to get one, I would have liked to have a quick reference page to find the BMW part #.

So, I created a page that hopefully we can help to populate. If one already exists, please send me the link. Otherwise, I hope others can add things that they found.

Also, if an administrator can make this a sticky, it would be great.

http://members.cox.net/dnwong/porscheref.htm

schwank · 09-07-2006, 08:11 PM

Nice, thanks for the post... great link to have. I too was thinking of replacing my sensors while doing my current rebuild. Always nice to savea few bucks!

GlenL · 09-07-2006, 08:21 PM

You can cross ref between cars all the parts that Bosch makes at:

http://ecat-online.bosch.de/toc/frame1.html

Doesn't work well from Mozilla.

Epic2112 · 09-08-2006, 03:56 AM

This is an excellent idea!

The saturn studs that will work in place of our exhaust studs and intake manifold bolts (at least on a 951) are part number 11518152. They are also way cheaper than Porsche studs and have a torx tip, which makes them easy to install and remove.

Epic2112 · 09-09-2006, 06:39 AM

Well, I was hoping that there would be more people contributing information. I'm going to keep my eyes open and try to fill out this list more.

The fuel pressure regulator from some late 80s BMW 5 series is a 44.2 psi regulator. This is equal to 3 bar. The stock FPR on a 951 is 2.5 bar, but the 3 bar is a common upgrade. the BMW part number is 13 53 1 711 541, and the Bosch number is 0 280 160 249. Napa also has two listings for this item, part numbers CRB219514 and BA 1580242, however these may not be manufactured by Bosch and may not be reliable.

Napa also has a fuel injector seal kit that fits our cars, the part number is CRB 2-12085.

Again, Napa has a radiator temperature switch that will fit the 951 (and possibly the NA as well, I'm not sure if the temperatures are different). It is a Napa part, not OEM, but I have one in my car and have had no problems. The part number is ECHFS227.

That's all I've got right now.

dnwong · 09-09-2006, 10:12 AM

Epic,

Thanks for your input. I am knida of new to the porsche thing so I don't have much experience to offer... Those are the kinds of unique things that everyone can benefit from.

Dudley

MM951 · 09-13-2006, 07:42 PM

Advance auto/ autozone can't find the bmw sensors ( 12 14 1 710 668)

where can I order this and if I order two ( 12 14 1 710 668) will that replace both my speed AND ref. sensors?

happy to see my starter thread in there

dnwong · 09-14-2006, 07:13 AM

Got mine from pelican parts. Yes, they both are the same. I have an extra one (new) if you are interested. But if you need 2 better just to get them both from pelican.

sp4149 · 09-17-2006, 02:34 PM

I posted about the BMW sensor last year; direct replacement, works fine, I just tied the extra cable into a loop with cable ties. Same sensor is also found in the 968.

Sensor part numbers:
An OEM (Bosche) Number for the 944 sensor is F6010-12761 List $194.53 Disc. $105.35 (autopartswarehouse.com)
An OEM (Bosche) Number for the BMW sensor is F6010-12760 List $96 Disc. $59.94
Substantial price difference if you need three for two cars.

Additional Part #s
944/968 Bosch # 0 261 210 003 (this is also marked on the sensor I removed from the 944)
BMW part # 12 14 1 708 618

I found the F6010 numbers used on several websites and a local German car shop also was able to find the sensor using the F6010 number. Parts and Accessories.com was a couple of bucks cheaper.

alordofchaos · 10-10-2006, 10:16 AM

Credit to Mike Markota for this one:

Brake pad pins interchange with toyota pickup

NAPA part # 82682 from a 1994 toyota T-100 pickup.

NAPA parts link

schwank · 10-17-2006, 12:41 AM

Courtesy of Kuhl 951:

Sun visor clip crosses to a VW part:

The clip:
3B0 857 561 BY20 . . . $4.68 . . . Pearl grey
3B0 857 561 BB41 . . . $5.01 . . . Black
3B0 857 561 B8YS . . . ($.?.) . . . Light Beige

For the clip-on dress cover:

3B0 857 563 BY20 . . . $1.70 . . . Pearl grey
3B0 857 563 BB41 . . . $1.70 . . . Black
3B0 857 563 B8YS . . . $1.70 . . . Light beige

fastman · 10-18-2006, 08:11 PM

HA, timeing is everything, I was going to post a message looking for sunvisor clips. Thanks Schwank.

Epic2112 · 10-23-2006, 05:44 AM

A few more numbers to add to the list:

A replacement for the stock 951 blow off/recirculator valve is the Porsche 993 recirculator valve, which (apparently) is a little stronger the original 951 part. Here are some numbers for the part:
Porsche: 993 110 337 50
VW: 034 145 710 A
Saab: 75 39 257
Volvo: 1275883
Bosch: 0 280 142 110
Bosch: 0 280 142 108

Epic2112 · 10-23-2006, 05:58 AM

I don't know how helpful this will be, but I have a wide band oxygen sensor that I purchased from Lindsey Racing. I think they might be using a different sensor now (although I am pretty sure the only difference is the connector), however the exact sensor that came with my kit is standard on a 2000 Cadillac Catera. I bought one through NAPA that I ordered for the Cadillac, so I can personally vouch that it is the correct one. Here are some numbers again:
Cadillac: 919-8809
Saturn: 24450850
Bosch: 0 258 006 065
Bosch: 0 258 006 066
Napa: BSH16065

czar · 10-31-2006, 06:38 PM

Not sure if this helps, but courtesy of Porsche Porn:

"X" relay (G-14): 191 937 503, G-2, G-11, G-13: 141 951 253 B, can all be replaced with: 141951253B from a VW dealer. Much easier to get and they only charged me $5.06/ea. at my local VW dealer.

09-07-2006, 07:34 PM	#1
dnwong User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 466	Parts Cross Reference Sometime ago, I was reading a thread about the cheap version of the ref and speed sensors. By the time I needed to get one, I would have liked to have a quick reference page to find the BMW part #. So, I created a page that hopefully we can help to populate. If one already exists, please send me the link. Otherwise, I hope others can add things that they found. Also, if an administrator can make this a sticky, it would be great. http://members.cox.net/dnwong/porscheref.htm Last edited by dnwong; 09-07-2006 at 08:25 PM.

09-08-2006, 03:56 AM	#4
Epic2112 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,628	This is an excellent idea! The saturn studs that will work in place of our exhaust studs and intake manifold bolts (at least on a 951) are part number 11518152. They are also way cheaper than Porsche studs and have a torx tip, which makes them easy to install and remove. __________________ Kevin 1989 951, Leinengrau Metallic - 1986 Engine, K27/6, Lindsey Stage 2 MAF, Seimens 55lb injectors, TiAL 38mm, LBE, Vitesse Software, Himsel Haus Fuel Lines (Happy?), 3 bar FPR, SPEC Stage II Clutch, Fabspeed SS 3" Exhaust, 33/5 Bias Valve, Uego WBO2, VDO EGT, KLA Strut Brace, Loose nut behind the wheel. 1990 M3, Sterlingsilber Metallic 1988 Volvo 240DL, Vit

09-09-2006, 06:39 AM	#5
Epic2112 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,628	Well, I was hoping that there would be more people contributing information. I'm going to keep my eyes open and try to fill out this list more. The fuel pressure regulator from some late 80s BMW 5 series is a 44.2 psi regulator. This is equal to 3 bar. The stock FPR on a 951 is 2.5 bar, but the 3 bar is a common upgrade. the BMW part number is 13 53 1 711 541, and the Bosch number is 0 280 160 249. Napa also has two listings for this item, part numbers CRB219514 and BA 1580242, however these may not be manufactured by Bosch and may not be reliable. Napa also has a fuel injector seal kit that fits our cars, the part number is CRB 2-12085. Again, Napa has a radiator temperature switch that will fit the 951 (and possibly the NA as well, I'm not sure if the temperatures are different). It is a Napa part, not OEM, but I have one in my car and have had no problems. The part number is ECHFS227. That's all I've got right now. __________________ Kevin 1989 951, Leinengrau Metallic - 1986 Engine, K27/6, Lindsey Stage 2 MAF, Seimens 55lb injectors, TiAL 38mm, LBE, Vitesse Software, Himsel Haus Fuel Lines (Happy?), 3 bar FPR, SPEC Stage II Clutch, Fabspeed SS 3" Exhaust, 33/5 Bias Valve, Uego WBO2, VDO EGT, KLA Strut Brace, Loose nut behind the wheel. 1990 M3, Sterlingsilber Metallic 1988 Volvo 240DL, Vit

09-09-2006, 10:12 AM	#6
dnwong User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 466	Epic, Thanks for your input. I am knida of new to the porsche thing so I don't have much experience to offer... Those are the kinds of unique things that everyone can benefit from. Dudley Last edited by dnwong; 09-14-2006 at 07:21 AM.

09-13-2006, 07:42 PM	#7
MM951 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hudson Valley Posts: 9,307	Advance auto/ autozone can't find the bmw sensors ( 12 14 1 710 668) where can I order this and if I order two ( 12 14 1 710 668) will that replace both my speed AND ref. sensors? happy to see my starter thread in there __________________ Mike 87 951- Vitesse MAF, 60-1, Tial 38mm, GC coilovers, CPR 968 wing etc etc Past: 85 944, 84 944 Future: 997 GT3 RS

09-07-2006, 08:21 PM	#3
GlenL Super User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 3,843	You can cross ref between cars all the parts that Bosch makes at: http://ecat-online.bosch.de/toc/frame1.html Doesn't work well from Mozilla.

09-14-2006, 07:13 AM	#8
dnwong User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 466	Got mine from pelican parts. Yes, they both are the same. I have an extra one (new) if you are interested. But if you need 2 better just to get them both from pelican.

09-17-2006, 02:34 PM	#9
sp4149 User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 24	I posted about the BMW sensor last year; direct replacement, works fine, I just tied the extra cable into a loop with cable ties. Same sensor is also found in the 968. Sensor part numbers: An OEM (Bosche) Number for the 944 sensor is F6010-12761 List $194.53 Disc. $105.35 (autopartswarehouse.com) An OEM (Bosche) Number for the BMW sensor is F6010-12760 List $96 Disc. $59.94 Substantial price difference if you need three for two cars. Additional Part #s 944/968 Bosch # 0 261 210 003 (this is also marked on the sensor I removed from the 944) BMW part # 12 14 1 708 618 I found the F6010 numbers used on several websites and a local German car shop also was able to find the sensor using the F6010 number. Parts and Accessories.com was a couple of bucks cheaper.

10-10-2006, 10:16 AM	#10
alordofchaos Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mid Michigan Posts: 6,293	Credit to Mike Markota for this one: Brake pad pins interchange with toyota pickup NAPA part # 82682 from a 1994 toyota T-100 pickup. NAPA parts link __________________ Jack - 1986 944 na

10-18-2006, 08:11 PM	#12
fastman Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 55	HA, timeing is everything, I was going to post a message looking for sunvisor clips. Thanks Schwank.

10-23-2006, 05:44 AM	#13
Epic2112 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,628	A few more numbers to add to the list: A replacement for the stock 951 blow off/recirculator valve is the Porsche 993 recirculator valve, which (apparently) is a little stronger the original 951 part. Here are some numbers for the part: Porsche: 993 110 337 50 VW: 034 145 710 A Saab: 75 39 257 Volvo: 1275883 Bosch: 0 280 142 110 Bosch: 0 280 142 108 __________________ Kevin 1989 951, Leinengrau Metallic - 1986 Engine, K27/6, Lindsey Stage 2 MAF, Seimens 55lb injectors, TiAL 38mm, LBE, Vitesse Software, Himsel Haus Fuel Lines (Happy?), 3 bar FPR, SPEC Stage II Clutch, Fabspeed SS 3" Exhaust, 33/5 Bias Valve, Uego WBO2, VDO EGT, KLA Strut Brace, Loose nut behind the wheel. 1990 M3, Sterlingsilber Metallic 1988 Volvo 240DL, Vit

10-23-2006, 05:58 AM	#14
Epic2112 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,628	I don't know how helpful this will be, but I have a wide band oxygen sensor that I purchased from Lindsey Racing. I think they might be using a different sensor now (although I am pretty sure the only difference is the connector), however the exact sensor that came with my kit is standard on a 2000 Cadillac Catera. I bought one through NAPA that I ordered for the Cadillac, so I can personally vouch that it is the correct one. Here are some numbers again: Cadillac: 919-8809 Saturn: 24450850 Bosch: 0 258 006 065 Bosch: 0 258 006 066 Napa: BSH16065 __________________ Kevin 1989 951, Leinengrau Metallic - 1986 Engine, K27/6, Lindsey Stage 2 MAF, Seimens 55lb injectors, TiAL 38mm, LBE, Vitesse Software, Himsel Haus Fuel Lines (Happy?), 3 bar FPR, SPEC Stage II Clutch, Fabspeed SS 3" Exhaust, 33/5 Bias Valve, Uego WBO2, VDO EGT, KLA Strut Brace, Loose nut behind the wheel. 1990 M3, Sterlingsilber Metallic 1988 Volvo 240DL, Vit

10-31-2006, 06:38 PM	#15
czar Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 205	Relays Not sure if this helps, but courtesy of Porsche Porn: "X" relay (G-14): 191 937 503, G-2, G-11, G-13: 141 951 253 B, can all be replaced with: 141951253B from a VW dealer. Much easier to get and they only charged me $5.06/ea. at my local VW dealer. __________________ Past Porsches: '83 Porsche 944 '68 Porsche 912 Current Porsche(s): '88 Porsche 944S