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Why do S2000's keep racing me? (or what should I replace my 951 with?)

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Old 10-27-2007, 02:10 AM
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Is the S2k head similar to the new K20 heads? The jdm to be exact. Some guy I know 'money shifted' at gingerman (stock redline at 9k) he hit 11k + and even with upgraded springs he def was paying for that shift.
Old 10-27-2007, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944
Must be bouncing off the limiter in every gear to get those times...
So? Thats half the fun...I let it bounce off the rev limiter constantly.

the fact of the matter is that a 951 is hands down a better car. Its better looking, more powerful, and can actually be useful around town without blipping the throttle high enough to scare children away.
Seeing as I have both, I think I can pretty much say Id rather drive the S2K daily. To me the S2000 is a modern day 944 n/a. Also- It moves just fine around town without having to rev to 9k rpm. (dont get me wrong though, I love my 951)

Originally Posted by CameronKame
I'm not quite fond of the S2000 period... It's a car that does what it was made to do I suppose, but I can't see myself spending money to buy one.
Bought mine for about half what they cost new, already put 10k miles/6 trackdays on it, will continue to do so next year and Ill be able to sell it for around the same price.


Originally Posted by fezz
Say what you want or what you think. I really dont want to go on about Honda on this board - But, anyone who owns this car loves how pure the concept is and the commitment Honda made to squeeze eveything it could out of it. Doing more with less - I think that is the Porsche way, or the way it once was.
Well said, I dont want to praise Honda on a Porsche board but I its hard to sit here and read some of these posts. You would think most people on this board would appreciate a pure drivers car, hand built alongside the NSX, motor that has won TONS of awards, fantastic gearbox, 50/50 weight, sharp handling, prob the fastest/best power top in any car at any price, etc...

This is prob a bit out of date but is worth a read:

http://s2ki.com/Home/index.php?optio...=259&Itemid=60

ps- If Porsche would have made this car you would all be leghumping it.
Old 10-27-2007, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SamGrant951

ps- If Porsche would have made this car you would all be leghumping it.
LOL.............so true............
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Originally Posted by Yummybud924
s2000 is a lame car imo. don't like the looks. it may be quick but it's a 4 banger
Old 10-27-2007, 02:19 PM
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Seems like a lot of people here hate the car. It's a quick car, pretty good looking, not too expensive... Personally I wouldn't buy one. Sorry, but that "H" doesn't really arouse any passion for me.
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Originally Posted by SamGrant951
ps- If Porsche would have made this car you would all be leghumping it.
now, that's funny Sam!
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Originally Posted by SamGrant951

This is prob a bit out of date but is worth a read:

http://s2ki.com/Home/index.php?optio...=259&Itemid=60
nice read Sam, I had not seen that before.
Old 10-27-2007, 03:15 PM
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Well I guess because 944 Turbos are the best thing made, I'd like to sell mine right now for the highest bidder. Which should be a lot considering, you know, what kind of car it is (the best). I'd take an S2k over my 944 Turbo actually as my DD.
Old 10-28-2007, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedBump
lol, yeah I know the 944 is also a 4 banger.

thing is if I had the money for a s2000 I wouldn't buy a 4 banger porsche, I'd get a 928 gts or maybe a 968 and supercharger it.

the 968 engine is a 4 banger but it's basicly the size of a 6 cylinder engine and makes lots of torque / hp at low rpms.

I prefer a car with the power down low in the rpm range rather than having to rev the **** out of the engine all the time.

I've never driven a s2000 though so it might be a really nice car if I actually drive one.

in my 944 I rarely rev past 4k rpm as the engine sounds like it is going to blow up......
Old 10-28-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by teamking
Fishey, why don't you do us all a favor... read more and type less.

I suggest you start with this:
http://craig.backfire.ca/pages/autos/horsepower
So you are suggesting the S2000 has a larger powerband?
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Originally Posted by Yummybud924

in my 944 I rarely rev past 4k rpm as the engine sounds like it is going to blow up......
Well ! You're missing something then, with a 944 n/a life begins at 4000 rpm ! With my 3 speed a.t. my open road cruising speed is actually in the range of 4000 to 6000 rpm !!!

Don't be shy, listen to the music.....
Old 10-29-2007, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishey
So you are suggesting the S2000 has a larger powerband?
Could you be more specific about what I might or might not be suggesting? Define larger (peak, width, average, etc.). Also, am I suggesting the S2000 is larger with respect to what (Turbo, Turbo S, Turbo w/ chip). Thanks for helping me clarify my suggestions.
Old 10-29-2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Yummybud924
lol, yeah I know the 944 is also a 4 banger.

thing is if I had the money for a s2000 I wouldn't buy a 4 banger porsche, I'd get a 928 gts or maybe a 968 and supercharger it.

the 968 engine is a 4 banger but it's basicly the size of a 6 cylinder engine and makes lots of torque / hp at low rpms.

I prefer a car with the power down low in the rpm range rather than having to rev the **** out of the engine all the time.

I've never driven a s2000 though so it might be a really nice car if I actually drive one.

in my 944 I rarely rev past 4k rpm as the engine sounds like it is going to blow up......

I couldn't agree more... you really hit the nail on the head.

I've got a 2006 Solstice, and while I love the car, I do wish it had more low-end torque. At the end of the day, it'll easily run high 14s all day (I have a ceramic header, hi-flow cat, and CAI), but in stop and go traffic... you really have to wind it out if you want to stay ahead of traffic. On the other hand, my 2002 Crown Victoria LX (which also breaks into the 14s with modifications), will easily pull out ahead of traffic with nothing more than 1/4 throttle.

In the Crown Vic... if a fly takes a crap on the gas pedal, I'm out ahead of traffic, effortlessly. With the Solstice, I have to wind out hte gears, and then people think I'm trying to race them.


The 944 at least seems to have enough low-end torque that it's reasonable in traffic, but cars like the Solstice and the S2000, even with the VVT, it's still primarily build for high-rpm driving. Kind of a pain in the ***. 4 cyls also just don't have a decent sound to them, although the 944 is probably one of the nicest 4 cyls I've ever heard. A modest sized all aluminum V6 with DOHC would be an awesome motor for a 944 replacement. Something of decent but modest size, like a 2.8 or a 3.0. And then for an upscale version, a turbo...
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Originally Posted by Yummybud924
lol, yeah I know the 944 is also a 4 banger.

thing is if I had the money for a s2000 I wouldn't buy a 4 banger porsche, I'd get a 928 gts or maybe a 968 and supercharger it.
Where as I chose the S2000 and the 968 over far more expensive cars and it had nothing to do with $$$$. Both are exceptionally well balanced and fun cars to drive.
the 968 engine is a 4 banger but it's basicly the size of a 6 cylinder engine and makes lots of torque / hp at low rpms.
I have 8 cylinders and torque in my truck. LOL
I prefer a car with the power down low in the rpm range rather than having to rev the **** out of the engine all the time.
in my 944 I rarely rev past 4k rpm as the engine sounds like it is going to blow up......
As someone said you are missing out on your 944 and you would missing out on the 968 as well.
I've never driven a s2000 though so it might be a really nice car if I actually drive one.
Back in 2002 it put a smile on my face when I drove it on a whim, so I bought it and drove it home top down in February.
Old 10-29-2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 82-T/A
In the Crown Vic... if a fly takes a crap on the gas pedal, I'm out ahead of traffic, effortlessly....
With a Crown Vic, only the front of the car is ahead of traffic. The rear end of the car is still behind the long, long trail of cars.


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