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Old 07-20-2009, 09:18 AM   #1
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Default Group Buy: Gear Reduction Starter Round 2

I've received a number of inquiries from folks that missed the first round group buy on the IMI Gear Reduction Starter. This is a feeler post to gauge interest in a second round. Here is a quote from the original threads regarding the product itself:
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I am working with IMI to adapt one of their existing lightweight, high-torque, gear reduction starters for the 931, 924S and 944*. These will specifically be a replacement for the factory item 951.604.101.00, which is listed for any 931, 924S, and 944 through 1991 with a manual transmission (*note: there is another unit listed for late 944s with the M198 option, part number 951.604.102.00, I cannot verify compatibility with this item because I don't know how it differs).

Here is a partial feature list:
  • 4.440 to1 gear reduction
  • Light weight (under 9 pounds)
  • Provides 525 plus ft. lbs. of torque
  • Long lasting and durable
  • Compact design
  • Heat resistant solenoid
  • 5 full roller bearing construction
  • Draws less current than other units
  • Easy re-positioning for better clearance
  • Vented solenoid for better heat resistance

These units are fully indexable (remove two screws, rotate the housing, reattach screws), allowing for proper positioning on the various applications (i.e. the 2.0L-based 931 requires the solenoid in a slightly different indexed location than the 2.5L-based 924S/944).

Here's a photo of the actual IMI-151 item:
I have contacted IMI to reconfirm pricing for single units (in case we are unable to get enough for quantity discount) as well as the group buy pricing levels. I will post back later today to confirm pricing. In the meantime, there is a lot of discussion in the original threads regarding the benefits of these units. If you have questions, kindly read up on the cross-referenced threads and then follow up here with any unanswered questions.
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Old 07-20-2009, 04:38 PM   #2
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Put me down in the "if I can get the money, I want one" category.
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:05 PM   #3
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Put me down as a tentative. If we get up to 10+ people, I will definately throw the money down.
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:54 PM   #4
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Put me down as a tentative. I need two.
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:59 PM   #5
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I am in for another one.
Very nice quality looking starter,however a friend talked me into selling mine before I had the chance to install it.
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:24 PM   #6
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^ lol, nice work. I hope you at least made a profit off it.
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:10 PM   #7
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If you missed the first buy, you should jump on this one!
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:27 PM   #8
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Put me down as a tentative. If we get up to 10+ people, I will definately throw the money down.
Well, halfway there. Sort of.
  • billthe3: tentative for one piece
  • GuyKeefer: tentative for one piece
  • msailer: tentative for two pieces
  • sj340: confirmed for one piece
Total so far: 5

Since I don't have a horse in this race, we can perhaps be a little more relaxed with the "deadline" for participation if it will help bring the cost down for everyone.
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Someone in the first group successfully install this on an S2? My starter has been making some odd noises lately.
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Old 07-20-2009, 10:04 PM   #10
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Interested. Strongly interested if we get below $200.

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:22 AM   #11
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Updated
  • billthe3: tentative for one piece
  • GuyKeefer: tentative for one piece
  • msailer: tentative for two pieces
  • sj340: confirmed for one piece
  • MikeV: confirmed for one piece
  • Portly: tentative for one piece
Tentative: 5 || Confirmed: 2 || Total: 7

Regarding the question on the S2, I would recommend looking at the part numbers I posted above. If your car takes one of those part numbers, this starter will work for you.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:08 AM   #12
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Looks like it will work for certain unless i have the M198 option, I'll have to check that first.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:36 PM   #13
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how much lighter than stock?
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:35 PM   #14
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+1, how much weight savings over the stock NA starter???
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The original starter is apparently 11lbs. Not much of a weight savings, but it works better and needs less power then the original unit.
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