Cash for Clunkers

Tom R. · 07-22-2009, 11:36 PM

Cars have to get 18mpg or less. What does a 944 get according to those paying the $$?

I skimmed the program today. If the car has been registered for the past year and is under 25years old it qualifies.

It doesnt say the wheels have to be true, the tires have tread, the clutch disk be in one piece, the torque tube have good bearings, or the interior not have rips.

There are deals on a lot of new cheap cars right now.

halik · 07-22-2009, 11:47 PM

just buy a POS bronco or something and keep it registered for a year.

RED87944S · 07-22-2009, 11:59 PM

all 944s get around 25mpg...

Don 944 LA · 07-23-2009, 12:02 AM

spec was 30 or 33 on early 944's correct ???

67King · 07-23-2009, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halik

just buy a POS bronco or something and keep it registered for a year.

It expires in November, or thereabouts. They made the legislation specifically to prevent folks from being able to game the system.

V2Rocket_aka944 · 07-23-2009, 01:08 AM

something like 17/32

944Ross · 07-23-2009, 01:09 AM

I hit the sweet spot on this one... in a way. I have an '88 Chevy truck that I paid $4k for 6 yrs ago. I've put some hard miles on it, hauling gravel and river rock, camping, moving my sons from house to house. It got rear-ended last November and I collected $1800 from insurance. It has 228k miles on it, looks halfway decent even after the accident, and is super reliable, but swigs the gas. I was going to sell it for about $800 (only because it has nice wheels and tires), but now it's worth $4500! but only if I buy a brand new car or a small truck. I have no such intention, but anyone who is thinking of buying new, I'll sell it to you for $2250, you can double your money!

Thundertub · 07-23-2009, 09:51 AM

Edmunds.com has a listing of all of the cars that qualify.
If you own one of these Porsches, you qualify...
1990 Porsche 944 3L 4-Cyl 5M RWD Passenger Car
1991 Porsche 944 3L 4-Cyl 5M RWD Passenger Car
1992 Porsche 968 3L 4-Cyl 6M RWD Passenger Car
1993 Porsche 968 3L 4-Cyl 6M RWD Passenger Car

Fishey · 07-23-2009, 10:47 AM

Thats funny, my 3L gets much better mileage then any 2.5L I have ever had.

techartisan · 07-23-2009, 11:34 AM

edmunds list is far from comprehensive....

Passenger Car new vehicle must get 22mpg (which is ridiculous)
which must be an improvement of:
4-9 mpg $3,500
10 mpg or more $4,500

fueleconomy.gov has an 86 944 listed at 18/25manual (17/24automatic) for a combined 20mpg (19 mpg in auto)

so with the right "new car" it seems likely that we'd all qualify...I dont like new cars though

I still find it amusing that a 89 geo metro ($1575 high book) is now rated at a 41 combined mpg....and the 09 prius costing $23,730 is only a 45. Guess those metro owners will have to keep theirs.

Tom R. · 07-23-2009, 10:48 PM

i didnt want a new car either. I was going to get myself a nice 10k M3 with say 75k miles on it. Then I saw the ad for my 181k M3 and spoke to the owner and decided I could get by with 5k more in my pocket, and was waiting to seal the deal on the 951 before looking at the car.

my wife was a little concerned about me getting a car with so many miles as my only car. Then we get the letter from teh GM card saying we can use all 2900 on one car.

The compromise was i get the cheapest new car I could stomach and leave it alone so she isnt worried about us having only one car and two places to be. for 228 a month x60 i got a brand new astra which is a lot nicer than i thought, she gets piece of mind and I can tinker with the M3 at the pace i want without needing the car.

a new gas sipper for next to nothing with that 4500 makes good economic sense.

Kurt R · 07-23-2009, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techartisan

I still find it amusing that a 89 geo metro ($1575 high book) is now rated at a 41 combined mpg....and the 09 prius costing $23,730 is only a 45. Guess those metro owners will have to keep theirs.

Last summer there were guys near me selling Metros for $4k.
41mpg gas, 100mpq/oil.

white924s · 07-24-2009, 01:17 AM

I wish they had made it so the $4500 could be used to cover a new engine for an old car (provided the engine met certain fuel mileage/efficiency marks). I would put $4500 towards a complete rebuild of the 2.5l, which would dramatically reduce my car's emissions from burning oil because the piston rings are old...all the benefits of an environmentally friendly car with none of the side effects from disposing of an entire car

but that would be far too logical for our Congress

V2Rocket_aka944 · 07-24-2009, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt R

Last summer there were guys near me selling Metros for $4k.
41mpg gas, 100mpq/oil.

is it a 2-stroke?

86 924S Driver · 07-24-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944

is it a 2-stroke?

They make clean burning 2 strokes now. 2 strokes are better than 4 strokes, and anything more than 2 strokes is masturbation. Sorry now back to regular scheduled program.

07-22-2009, 11:36 PM	#1
Tom R. Addict Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: NY attitude @ Denver altitude Posts: 8,997	Cash for Clunkers Cars have to get 18mpg or less. What does a 944 get according to those paying the $$? I skimmed the program today. If the car has been registered for the past year and is under 25years old it qualifies. It doesnt say the wheels have to be true, the tires have tread, the clutch disk be in one piece, the torque tube have good bearings, or the interior not have rips. There are deals on a lot of new cheap cars right now. __________________ Selling my Porsche parts to finance my Dakar 95 M3 & Astra:, Past Porsches: Velvet Red 89 951 (51k mi, sold 6/09) UberRareRed 90 S2 (73K mi, sold 11/08)UberRareStolenRed 89 S2 (73K mi stolen 9/03), RareRed 88 951(The Duck's) StoneGray 89 S2 (Now my brother's), Linen 89 NA (Was my brother's)

07-23-2009, 01:09 AM	#7
944Ross Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rio Rancho NM (ABQ) Posts: 773	I hit the sweet spot on this one... in a way. I have an '88 Chevy truck that I paid $4k for 6 yrs ago. I've put some hard miles on it, hauling gravel and river rock, camping, moving my sons from house to house. It got rear-ended last November and I collected $1800 from insurance. It has 228k miles on it, looks halfway decent even after the accident, and is super reliable, but swigs the gas. I was going to sell it for about $800 (only because it has nice wheels and tires), but now it's worth $4500! but only if I buy a brand new car or a small truck. I have no such intention, but anyone who is thinking of buying new, I'll sell it to you for $2250, you can double your money! __________________ '86 944/2 ..........'52 Ford F-1.......... '91 H-D FXRS-C '94 Mustang GT.......... '69 Triumph Bonneville

07-23-2009, 09:51 AM	#8
Thundertub Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 479	Edmunds.com has a listing of all of the cars that qualify. If you own one of these Porsches, you qualify... 1990 Porsche 944 3L 4-Cyl 5M RWD Passenger Car 1991 Porsche 944 3L 4-Cyl 5M RWD Passenger Car 1992 Porsche 968 3L 4-Cyl 6M RWD Passenger Car 1993 Porsche 968 3L 4-Cyl 6M RWD Passenger Car __________________ Mark '99 C2 coupe. Red... gotta be red.

07-23-2009, 10:47 AM	#9
Fishey Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lebanon, OH Posts: 4,405	Thats funny, my 3L gets much better mileage then any 2.5L I have ever had. __________________ Official Rennlist E-Thug! Nitrous is like a hot chick with a STD..... you know you wanna hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences..... PARTS FOR SALE!!! http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...d.php?t=242593

07-23-2009, 11:34 AM	#10
techartisan User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 36	edmunds list is far from comprehensive.... Passenger Car new vehicle must get 22mpg (which is ridiculous) which must be an improvement of: 4-9 mpg $3,500 10 mpg or more $4,500 fueleconomy.gov has an 86 944 listed at 18/25manual (17/24automatic) for a combined 20mpg (19 mpg in auto) so with the right "new car" it seems likely that we'd all qualify...I dont like new cars though I still find it amusing that a 89 geo metro ($1575 high book) is now rated at a 41 combined mpg....and the 09 prius costing $23,730 is only a 45. Guess those metro owners will have to keep theirs. Last edited by techartisan; 07-23-2009 at 12:00 PM.

07-22-2009, 11:47 PM	#2
halik User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 324	just buy a POS bronco or something and keep it registered for a year.

07-22-2009, 11:59 PM	#3
RED87944S User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 298	all 944s get around 25mpg...

07-23-2009, 12:02 AM	#4
Don 944 LA User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Group W bench Downtown LA Posts: 1,757	spec was 30 or 33 on early 944's correct ???

07-23-2009, 10:48 PM	#11
Tom R. Addict Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: NY attitude @ Denver altitude Posts: 8,997	i didnt want a new car either. I was going to get myself a nice 10k M3 with say 75k miles on it. Then I saw the ad for my 181k M3 and spoke to the owner and decided I could get by with 5k more in my pocket, and was waiting to seal the deal on the 951 before looking at the car. my wife was a little concerned about me getting a car with so many miles as my only car. Then we get the letter from teh GM card saying we can use all 2900 on one car. The compromise was i get the cheapest new car I could stomach and leave it alone so she isnt worried about us having only one car and two places to be. for 228 a month x60 i got a brand new astra which is a lot nicer than i thought, she gets piece of mind and I can tinker with the M3 at the pace i want without needing the car. a new gas sipper for next to nothing with that 4500 makes good economic sense. __________________ Selling my Porsche parts to finance my Dakar 95 M3 & Astra:, Past Porsches: Velvet Red 89 951 (51k mi, sold 6/09) UberRareRed 90 S2 (73K mi, sold 11/08)UberRareStolenRed 89 S2 (73K mi stolen 9/03), RareRed 88 951(The Duck's) StoneGray 89 S2 (Now my brother's), Linen 89 NA (Was my brother's)

07-24-2009, 01:17 AM	#13
white924s Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	I wish they had made it so the $4500 could be used to cover a new engine for an old car (provided the engine met certain fuel mileage/efficiency marks). I would put $4500 towards a complete rebuild of the 2.5l, which would dramatically reduce my car's emissions from burning oil because the piston rings are old...all the benefits of an environmentally friendly car with none of the side effects from disposing of an entire car but that would be far too logical for our Congress __________________ Mike H. 1987 924S - no sunroof and a couple modifications