Price ? 89 S2

dblvanos · 11-06-2009, 06:42 PM

Looking to get ideas on pricing for an 89 S2 with 113k miles. Black on Black, LSD rear wiper, heated drivers, New cams and chain in the last 3k miles, seats have wear with one tear. No know accident history but the passenger quarter has signs of orange peal.

I have been following prices but I would like to have a group thought on what this car would be worth.

Potomac-Greg · 11-06-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dblvanos

Looking to get ideas on pricing for an 89 S2 with 113k miles. Black on Black, LSD rear wiper, heated drivers, New cams and chain in the last 3k miles, seats have wear with one tear. No know accident history but the passenger quarter has signs of orange peal.

I have been following prices but I would like to have a group thought on what this car would be worth.

The market is wacky and you might get an "enthusiast" to pay more, but I suggest that you ask $9,000 and be delighted to get $8,000.

Or just swap it for a nice 1988 944 n/a, red with 74,000 miles.

J Berk · 11-06-2009, 09:19 PM

Can't tell

are you buying or selling?

Tom R. · 11-07-2009, 12:04 AM

without the lsd you are lucky to get 6500 based on what i got for my 90 with 40k less miles and a new clutch, and no torn seats

racer · 11-07-2009, 12:12 AM

I'd wager $7K.. maybe ask $8K if selling.. $5.5K if buying.

theiceman · 11-07-2009, 12:29 AM

i would say he is definitely buying ..

J Berk · 11-07-2009, 09:56 AM

As with everything, it depends upon the education of the buyer.

If it's a rennlist member, and the car is LSD and was fully maintained and is 100% up to snuff...you'd probably get between $7k and $8k depending upon color, options, location, etc.

If it's not LSD and not fully maintained....probably more like $4k to $5k

If it's an un-educated (in a porsche sense) consumer you may be able to get more.....with the "wow..a nice porsche for under $10k" factor....depending upon the economy, location, color, appearance, etc.

If you are a BUYER...then you want to be in the I AM RENNLIST....I AM AN EDUCATED BUYER category.....in which case you'll not pay more than what the car is worth unless it's in the right location, in the color you want, and in fully maintained condition.

Tom R. · 11-07-2009, 12:11 PM

Joe,
the guy that bought my S2 a year ago was not a rennlist type guy. he tested a few cars and wasnt going any more than he did for a shiny porsche. he told me how great my car was, and all that, but...

bottom line, in this marketthere are very few stupid buyers, and there are a lot of newer more reliable cars that offer the same performance or better for less.

67King · 11-07-2009, 02:21 PM

Most factory cars have orange peel, so I wouldn't sweat a little. The big question to me is WHERE this car is. I'm thinking max in the mid 6's if it is from a warm climate. I personally have an aversion to northern cars based on experience, and it would take a lot to get me to even look at one.

J Berk · 11-07-2009, 04:16 PM

I hear you Tom....but I still think there is a $1k to $2k swing depending upon location and buyer knowledge.

I also believe that right now the 944 series is feeling a TON of pressure from cheap boxsters and 996's which makes it more of a challenge

dblvanos · 11-07-2009, 08:16 PM

Car is in the south, is a LSD car, and am told records from last two owners. Abs is not working but that has been the only disclosed mech fault. I am very fond of the color combo.

I am buying to be able to haul my mtn bike and keep some miles off my 987s.

The asking price is 6500, not sure how I feel about that with Abs not working. I was feeling about the same on vAlue as what has been stated, felt I should ping the rennlisters and make sure I have not lost my mind.

odurandina · 11-07-2009, 11:00 PM

I just have to be honest...

buy a 944 with a 10 - 12 thousand dollar budget, for purchase, interior updates, belts, [serious repair issues COMING SOON], tuneup, etc and you will be having a good time.

And with an 8 - 10 thousand dollar budget you can find a 968, change the belts, dump the cat, add a proper exhaust, do a tune-up and you're done... In a couple of years you can change to Sparco leather seats, 996 carbon steering wheel and airbag, 996 carbon shift knob , do a full stereo upgrade, and start saving for eventual engine and transmission builds.

I am sorry guys but I've been spending a lot of time researching the 944s and the sellers want 5, 6, 7 grand for cars that are difficult to justify spending over 3 k to purchase... and turbos ?

Incredible, and "oh my God get out your wallet" all in the same breath.

The repair/sweat/aggrivation costs associated with 944s are just through the roof.

The 968s have far fewer mechanical problems. I've put about 12 k in upgrades, updates, and simple maintanance...

In 50 k miles of driving just changed oil, did the belts once [15 k miles ago], and two tune ups.

1. new K and N air filter
2. fuel filter
3. Transaxle fluid
4. change oil
5. spark plugs.... oh God, that's really hard,

I am driving, not fixing a ridiculously beautiful, cosmetically updated, mechanically flawless, performance upgraded, 968 for south of 21 k total.

Transmission rebuild, clutch and supercharger up next.

3-5 k for almost any 944.

fliphkd7 · 11-07-2009, 11:06 PM

He's definitely a rennlist participant

dblvanos · 11-07-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliphkd7

He's definitely a rennlist participant

Haha,

In ATl on I phone,

see you in the morning

J Berk · 11-08-2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odurandina

I just have to be honest...

buy a 944 with a 10 - 12 thousand dollar budget, for purchase, interior updates, belts, [serious repair issues COMING SOON], tuneup, etc and you will be having a good time.

And with an 8 - 10 thousand dollar budget you can find a 968, change the belts, dump the cat, add a proper exhaust, do a tune-up and you're done... In a couple of years you can change to Sparco leather seats, 996 carbon steering wheel and airbag, 996 carbon shift knob , do a full stereo upgrade, and start saving for eventual engine and transmission builds.

I am sorry guys but I've been spending a lot of time researching the 944s and the sellers want 5, 6, 7 grand for cars that are difficult to justify spending over 3 k to purchase... and turbos ?

Incredible, and "oh my God get out your wallet" all in the same breath.

The repair/sweat/aggrivation costs associated with 944s are just through the roof.

The 968s have far fewer mechanical problems. I've put about 12 k in upgrades, updates, and simple maintanance...

In 50 k miles of driving just changed oil, did the belts once [15 k miles ago], and two tune ups.

1. new K and N air filter
2. fuel filter
3. Transaxle fluid
4. change oil
5. spark plugs.... oh God, that's really hard,

I am driving, not fixing a ridiculously beautiful, cosmetically updated, mechanically flawless, performance upgraded, 968 for south of 21 k total.

Transmission rebuild, clutch and supercharger up next.

3-5 k for almost any 944.

So what are the major differences between your 968 and an S2 that make it so much more reliable and mod'able ?

I will admit that I would love a 968 but it's purely for the asthetics...it is absolutely the best looking of the 9xx series.

I just don't see there being much more to want other than that between a 968 and an S2.

And you pretty much get the lower end of the 968 spectrum at $8k....where as you can get a really nicely maintained S2 for that money.

You and I see very different things.

11-06-2009, 06:42 PM	#1
dblvanos User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7	Price ? 89 S2 Looking to get ideas on pricing for an 89 S2 with 113k miles. Black on Black, LSD rear wiper, heated drivers, New cams and chain in the last 3k miles, seats have wear with one tear. No know accident history but the passenger quarter has signs of orange peal. I have been following prices but I would like to have a group thought on what this car would be worth.

11-06-2009, 09:19 PM	#3
J Berk Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 5,718	Can't tell are you buying or selling? __________________ Joe NNJR-PCA Member http://www.tracknovice.com 1991 944 S2 - black on black, white gauges/blue LED's from NH Speedometer...heated sport seats and a gt racing vented nose panel! Daily Rides: 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL (AMAZON GREEN!) - my DD 2007 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring w/all options - Wife's DD Past: 1984 944..gone but not forgotten.

11-07-2009, 12:04 AM	#4
Tom R. Addict Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: NY attitude @ Denver altitude Posts: 8,919	without the lsd you are lucky to get 6500 based on what i got for my 90 with 40k less miles and a new clutch, and no torn seats __________________ Selling my Porsche parts to finance my Dakkar 95 M3 & 08 Astra:, Past Porsches: Velvet Red 89 951 (51k mi, sold 6/09) UberRareRed 90 S2 (73K mi, sold 11/08)UberRareStolenRed 89 S2 (73K mi stolen 9/03), RareRed 88 951(Now The Duck's) StoneGray 89 S2) (Now my brother's), Linen 89 NA

11-07-2009, 12:12 AM	#5
racer Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,245	I'd wager $7K.. maybe ask $8K if selling.. $5.5K if buying. __________________ 1987 944 Past 2000 Boxster 1978 Euro SC Coupe 1976 914 2.0 1970 914 w/ 2056

11-07-2009, 12:29 AM	#6
theiceman Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cambridge Ontario Posts: 9,189	i would say he is definitely buying .. __________________ 78 SC Targa 76 XS360 95 Audi 90 Sport 09 Maxima Gone but not forgotten 87 944S " I'm not very smart but I know how to google "

11-07-2009, 09:56 AM	#7
J Berk Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 5,718	As with everything, it depends upon the education of the buyer. If it's a rennlist member, and the car is LSD and was fully maintained and is 100% up to snuff...you'd probably get between $7k and $8k depending upon color, options, location, etc. If it's not LSD and not fully maintained....probably more like $4k to $5k If it's an un-educated (in a porsche sense) consumer you may be able to get more.....with the "wow..a nice porsche for under $10k" factor....depending upon the economy, location, color, appearance, etc. If you are a BUYER...then you want to be in the I AM RENNLIST....I AM AN EDUCATED BUYER category.....in which case you'll not pay more than what the car is worth unless it's in the right location, in the color you want, and in fully maintained condition. __________________ Joe NNJR-PCA Member http://www.tracknovice.com 1991 944 S2 - black on black, white gauges/blue LED's from NH Speedometer...heated sport seats and a gt racing vented nose panel! Daily Rides: 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL (AMAZON GREEN!) - my DD 2007 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring w/all options - Wife's DD Past: 1984 944..gone but not forgotten.

11-07-2009, 12:11 PM	#8
Tom R. Addict Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: NY attitude @ Denver altitude Posts: 8,919	Joe, the guy that bought my S2 a year ago was not a rennlist type guy. he tested a few cars and wasnt going any more than he did for a shiny porsche. he told me how great my car was, and all that, but... bottom line, in this marketthere are very few stupid buyers, and there are a lot of newer more reliable cars that offer the same performance or better for less. __________________ Selling my Porsche parts to finance my Dakkar 95 M3 & 08 Astra:, Past Porsches: Velvet Red 89 951 (51k mi, sold 6/09) UberRareRed 90 S2 (73K mi, sold 11/08)UberRareStolenRed 89 S2 (73K mi stolen 9/03), RareRed 88 951(Now The Duck's) StoneGray 89 S2) (Now my brother's), Linen 89 NA

11-07-2009, 02:21 PM	#9
67King Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 320	Most factory cars have orange peel, so I wouldn't sweat a little. The big question to me is WHERE this car is. I'm thinking max in the mid 6's if it is from a warm climate. I personally have an aversion to northern cars based on experience, and it would take a lot to get me to even look at one. __________________ -88 951, track car in the making -06 Mazdaspeed6, DD -02 A6 Avant, wife's DD -67 GTO, my first love - 20 years and counting -66 Bronco Past noteworthies: -Merkur XR4Ti (track car, lost to cancer), 2nd XR4Ti, 69 4-4-2, 00 Mustang GT, 67 Continental, and over a half dozen non-noteworthies

11-07-2009, 04:16 PM	#10
J Berk Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 5,718	I hear you Tom....but I still think there is a $1k to $2k swing depending upon location and buyer knowledge. I also believe that right now the 944 series is feeling a TON of pressure from cheap boxsters and 996's which makes it more of a challenge __________________ Joe NNJR-PCA Member http://www.tracknovice.com 1991 944 S2 - black on black, white gauges/blue LED's from NH Speedometer...heated sport seats and a gt racing vented nose panel! Daily Rides: 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL (AMAZON GREEN!) - my DD 2007 Mazda CX-9 Grand Touring w/all options - Wife's DD Past: 1984 944..gone but not forgotten.

11-07-2009, 08:16 PM	#11
dblvanos User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7	Car is in the south, is a LSD car, and am told records from last two owners. Abs is not working but that has been the only disclosed mech fault. I am very fond of the color combo. I am buying to be able to haul my mtn bike and keep some miles off my 987s. The asking price is 6500, not sure how I feel about that with Abs not working. I was feeling about the same on vAlue as what has been stated, felt I should ping the rennlisters and make sure I have not lost my mind.

11-07-2009, 11:00 PM	#12
odurandina User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Dover, Massachusetts Posts: 253	I just have to be honest... buy a 944 with a 10 - 12 thousand dollar budget, for purchase, interior updates, belts, [serious repair issues COMING SOON], tuneup, etc and you will be having a good time. And with an 8 - 10 thousand dollar budget you can find a 968, change the belts, dump the cat, add a proper exhaust, do a tune-up and you're done... In a couple of years you can change to Sparco leather seats, 996 carbon steering wheel and airbag, 996 carbon shift knob , do a full stereo upgrade, and start saving for eventual engine and transmission builds. I am sorry guys but I've been spending a lot of time researching the 944s and the sellers want 5, 6, 7 grand for cars that are difficult to justify spending over 3 k to purchase... and turbos ? Incredible, and "oh my God get out your wallet" all in the same breath. The repair/sweat/aggrivation costs associated with 944s are just through the roof. The 968s have far fewer mechanical problems. I've put about 12 k in upgrades, updates, and simple maintanance... In 50 k miles of driving just changed oil, did the belts once [15 k miles ago], and two tune ups. 1. new K and N air filter 2. fuel filter 3. Transaxle fluid 4. change oil 5. spark plugs.... oh God, that's really hard, I am driving, not fixing a ridiculously beautiful, cosmetically updated, mechanically flawless, performance upgraded, 968 for south of 21 k total. Transmission rebuild, clutch and supercharger up next. 3-5 k for almost any 944.

11-07-2009, 11:06 PM	#13
fliphkd7 User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27	He's definitely a rennlist participant