944 Owners with LS1 swaps please post in here..

[xschop]

I can honestly say that excluding the car which is not the pretty german chick she once was, I will have less than 4 grand in the entire swap with the 5.3l truck motor that's with the Lexus Big brake up grade and fresh meat on the 18" feet too. To each his own, I plan on putting some hard miles on this NA transaxle before I completely rag it out with the hot cam. Then it is on to my next pet project for the car....custom rear TA. I will start building one this spring in anticipation of the Porsche Tranny R&P failure to ensue....

[968ls1]

A 5.3 with just a cam will NOT make 400rwhp. LS1's with cam's in the mid 220 duration range and ported heads will make 400rwhp, but a 5.3 with stock heads and a similar cam will be in the 330-340RWHP range, still good numbers considering a cam only.

[xschop]

There is a car craft (IIRC) cover on the cam somewhere. I will be doing my own hand porting, and a bigger throttle body and upgraded injectors while I'm at it. Whatever I do, the Porsche tranny is gonna get the smack down.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ine/index.html

[CameronKame]

I'd be more out for it if there was more info/way to get parts

Seems like the guys who do the swaps make their own stuff for themselves only, and the renegade kit runs kind of steep. Everyone for the most part keeps their stuff to themselves and what info you do find after hours of searching is missing chunks or in all different places.

I'd love to swap something in.. as my engine is already dead

[944V8inDFW]

Originally Posted by CameronKame

I'd be more out for it if there was more info/way to get parts

Seems like the guys who do the swaps make their own stuff for themselves only, and the renegade kit runs kind of steep. Everyone for the most part keeps their stuff to themselves and what info you do find after hours of searching is missing chunks or in all different places.

I'd love to swap something in.. as my engine is already dead

If you want chode free information go to
http://944hybrids.forumotion.com/forum.htm and check in the for sale section there is a excellent manual being sold with more information most will ever need. There are also several vendors other than the above mentioned chodes selling kits. Check 944hybrids out first.

[944V8inDFW]

the manual is best $$ you will ever spend if you are considering a swap

[arthropraxis]

I have it. Any one with questions needs to search that site.

[Fishey]

Originally Posted by 944V8inDFW

the manual is best $$ you will ever spend if you are considering a swap

I just ordered the manual hopefully its good.

[CPR]

Was posed a question today by one of my workers, that really has me thinking:

"Since you're a MOPAR guy why in the hell would you stick a Chebby in there?"


ugh...And I thought I finally had a good game plan for the tub.

But he is right. So in the coming months I am going to see what it would take to fit a 5.7 R/T Hemi. Anyone already done a Hemi? Any help/insight would be greatly appreciated.

[odurandina]

CPR -- you're a brave lad... i installed a chrysler 440 in my '79 chevy malibu in 1988 so i could drive the interstate from assachusetts to california where i went to school... the car ran so perfect and the cooling issues were solved with just the addition of an oil cooler [after i did all the mods, to make the motor, 727 tranny and modded driveshaft all fit]... and it fit like a glove resting on two hockey pucks in between steel plates. i changed the differential gears to a long highway gear and got 125 mph at 3,300 rpm... for long trips... that car was a monster and i finally sold it in 1991 to a friend at work after getting my '87 944 at auction... mopar engines rock.

[CPR]

Don't know about brave....maybe stupid for trying it if no one else has even attempted it

But my guy has a point. I love the Hemis (old and new), so if to do a swap, why not a Hemi Porsche, lol.

We'll see, I am doing some homework now.

[Potomac-Greg]

Originally Posted by odurandina

way back around 1991, i thought about how cool it would be to try to do an audi 20 valve turbo motor swap in my old 944... i began talking to a mechanic friend about it... and his immediate response was, "totally impractical, you will break the bank... why not a small block chevy ?"

the idea floored me and i thought it probably couldn't be done. but the idea of a changover to v8 power just seemed incredible, because i couldn't afford a modern supercar... but, it seemed likely this combination could compete with virtually anything built for the street at that time.

a few months later i was thumbing through an issue of Hot Rod and stumbled upon an ad for Renegade Porsche kits and i was shocked... the possibility of combining the reliability and massive torque of the small block chevy and the incredible design layout of the 944 was spectacular.

of course, there was a weight problem with the chevy V8, but i still thought the design would work, and maybe eliminate some of the understeer as well.

when the 968 came out, i thought the car needed a turbo -- but, i still wanted one !! i lacked the funds and i didn't need a new car... i had a 944 that ran perfect and my girlfriend had a Porsche 964.

i decided maybe. in the future a 968 would become available and i could do a swap then. the year was like, 1993.


these days, i am very happy with my car, but i will always dream of more cylinders !

the engine that all the Porsche purists think i should build, is just not going to deliver what i am looking for - for the time, hassle and money... then it will require all the support components to be replaced too often or fussed over endlessly.

i respect immensely the restoration projects you all do on your cars... and the turbo engines are incredible... but, the boost you're all running are way past conventional production boost levels... i don't want a racing engine in my car,

and that's exactly what you all are doing... and since i am not a mechanic, i can't be putting in the kind of time that so many of you all put in your cars...

for me, the costs would be astronomical.

my 968 will be going in for new belts H20 pump, timing chain and front seals... that should bring the maintenance bill for 108 k miles driven to nearly $14 k.

that's too much.


upon my return home from the airport today, i got into a spirited country drive through a section of Wellesley and Dover behind a Mazarati V8 Gran Turismo coupe. what a sound... and i started drooling.

there's no reason to build and drive your cars for the purpose of entertaining other people... furthermore, the high-end car builders have moved on from the 4 cylinder turbo design.

Lotus and Porsche made them work, and you all build your racing engines...

but they are just too high strung and require too much fussing over for me.

It's not the end for 4 cylinder turbos yet. VW just replaced the R32 with a pumped up 2.0 turbo, and it's still the base engine in the Audi TT, A4 and A5. Then there's the WRX Sti, Mitsubishi Evo and new Genesis Coupe. It's not a supercar engine, but you can pull 300 HP out of 2.0 liters fairly reliably.

[odurandina]

way back around 1991, i thought about how cool it would be to try to do an audi 20 valve turbo motor swap in my old 944... i began talking to a mechanic friend about it... and his immediate response was, "totally impractical, you will break the bank... why not a small block chevy ?"

the idea floored me and i thought it probably couldn't be done. but the idea of a changover to v8 power just seemed incredible, because i couldn't afford a modern supercar... but, it seemed likely this combination could compete with virtually anything built for the street at that time.

a few months later i was thumbing through an issue of Hot Rod and stumbled upon an ad for Renegade Porsche kits and i was shocked... the possibility of combining the reliability and massive torque of the small block chevy and the incredible design layout of the 944 was spectacular.

of course, there was a weight problem with the chevy V8, but i still thought the design would work, and maybe eliminate some of the understeer as well.

when the 968 came out, i thought the car needed a turbo -- but, i still wanted one !! i lacked the funds and i didn't need a new car... i had a 944 that ran perfect and my girlfriend had a Porsche 964.

i decided maybe. in the future a 968 would become available and i could do a swap then. the year was like, 1993.


these days, i am very happy with my car, but i will always dream of more cylinders !

the engine that all the Porsche purists think i should build, is just not going to deliver what i am looking for - for the time, work and money... then it will require the support components and belts be replaced too often and fussed over endlessly.

i respect immensely the restoration projects you all do on your cars... and the turbo engines are incredible. but the truth is, that these engines are very high strung. sure, the laws of physics allow for it, but these are racing engines - and i don't want a racing engine in my car. i can't be putting in the kind of time that so many of you all put in your cars... i'm not a mechanic so, the costs would be astronomical.


my 968 will be going in for new belts H20 pump, timing chain and front seals... that should bring the maintenance bill for 108 k miles driven to nearly $14 k.

that's a bit too much, i will do supercharger and then maybe do the belts one more time after that and hope the whole smash doesn't blow up along the way... but after that, i will change over to V8 power.


upon my return home from the airport today, i got into a spirited country drive through a section of Wellesley and Dover behind a Mazarati V8 Gran Turismo coupe. what a sound... and i started drooling.

there's no reason to build and drive our cars for the purpose of entertaining other people... furthermore, the high-end car builders have moved on from the 4 cylinder turbo design

[944V8inDFW]

Originally Posted by odurandina

not done writing yet. can you repost that by requoting ? lol.

please stay on topic

[xschop]

****xschop have you considered making a complete swap kit to compliment the basic?*****
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