944 Owners with LS1 swaps please post in here..

Fishey · 11-07-2009, 02:06 PM

I just want to get a list of who has done the swap and how do you like it now?

Is the car reliable?
Can you drive it daily? If not why?
What issues did you have with installation of the motor?
If you could talk about it on the phone can I get a phone number from you? (Just PM me)

Thanks in advance
- Fishey (Ron Swift)

Catfood · 11-07-2009, 02:12 PM

I know there is a guy on here with an LS2 Goat motor in his 944. Should have a lot of similarities to an LS1 swap.

V2Rocket_aka944 · 11-07-2009, 02:49 PM

i might join this list if i cant figure out this wiring problem...

talk to TonyG, he has a very nice 951 racecar (that i believe he's selling?) that ive seen in person and it looks as if it belongs there. very, very fast car.

also user DVC has the LS2 in his NA.

944V8inDFW · 11-07-2009, 02:51 PM

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marky522 · 11-08-2009, 09:34 PM

I havent fired mine off yet but..getting close. have been doing years of research and have my engine in place, I am doing it quite different than most. 919-760-five8three8 but wont have my phone till tomorrow morning. I do have tons of info though.

Mark

odurandina · 11-08-2009, 09:41 PM

i talked to the guys at Lingenfelter who convinced me the LS2 was the most sensible engine to use for this project... once i listened to their logic, i began doing my own research and it became even more clear that it was the superior engine to run over anything else... with the LS3 coming in second, [LS3 might actually be just be too much engine for the driveshaft/input shaft, etc to bear].

crate LS2 + Fast intake + Comp Cams mild cam + Tony Garcia + new high gears = 505 hp + we will find out.

CPR · 11-08-2009, 09:45 PM

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Hotshoe · 11-08-2009, 09:56 PM

Why would the LS2 be a better option? Are they just trying to serve their best interest and push a certain product of theirs? Are you talking a used LS2?

By the time you buy the LS2 and add those mods you are probably close to the stock LS3 crate that hs a 2 year warranty and plug and play.

I'm just curious because I've been leaning towards the LS3.

OmniGLH · 11-08-2009, 10:07 PM

A less fun but totally serious question: What kind of fuel mileage are you LSx swap guys getting?

My old Z06 pulled a little over 30mpg on the highway if I was gentle on it, but then that was with the C5 Z06's 6-speed, which IIRC ran in the low 2000rpm range at 70mph. My 951 is closer to 3000rpm. I'd figure 3k rpm would kill fuel mileage.

I love my 951 and my Audi is going back soon (lease) and am loosely kicking around the idea of picking up a 2nd 944 to use as a DD, but swap in an LS1 to cure the reliability issues

odurandina · 11-08-2009, 10:13 PM

Hotshoe-- "Why would the LS2 be a better option? Are they just trying to serve their best interest and push a certain product of theirs? Are you talking a used LS2?"

that was my first impression too but simply not so.

had I insisted they'd have built me an LS3 in 1 beat.

they told me that I should just buy a crate LS2 engine and do the Fast Intake + Comp Cam and that they'd be happy to do head porting LATER if I decided I wanted more power.

If anyone thinks an LS3 engine is a good idea for their cars I say go for it...

Great guys at Lingenfelter... I was just curious to get their opinion...

As far as what finally lands in your bay, I am certain that it will be far superior to nearly anything else that runs on the road... this engine is the true savior of the transaxles in my opinion.

It sure as hell isn't the guys in Stutgart.

they can't even build us a nice clock to put in our consoles, an armrest that doesn't break

or steering shafts or ps pumps that DON'T FAIL

or ps lines and oil coolers that don't leak shit up and down the interstate...

odurandina · 11-08-2009, 10:29 PM

OmniGLH:

i am having gears made for my 968-G46 transaxle.

in sixth, I will be within 150-200 rpm of a Z06...

some 951s have taller gears.

running 295-35-18 tires, you should be seeing around 2,200 rpm @ 60 mph with the right fifth gear.

but don't quote me on that exact figure.

btw... just being honest: I think Porsche as a corporation shows incredible levels of snobbery to even their best customers...

I looked at bolt on Sports Seats from many of top end 911s, etc... I would have prefered them.

But 10-15 thousand dollars for decent seats is ridiculous.

I ended up with a [rare, Jet black on dark grey] version of Sparco's most beautiful Milano Prestige seats for a fraction of that price, [$4,300 total] and they are better than anything Porsche has anyway.

If they had good after-production programs in place, I believe they would have sold WAY MORE CARS in the last 20 years since the first 959 was featured in Road and Track's World's Fastest Cars special way back in 1988...

They shoot themselves in the foot way more than people give them credit for.

The big three are still supporting cars they built 40 years ago.

./

CPR · 11-08-2009, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odurandina

If anyone thinks an LS3 engine is a good idea for their cars I say go for it...

Great guys at Lingenfelter... I was just curious to get their opinion...

As far as what finally lands in your bay, I am certain that it will be far superior to nearly anything else that runs on the road... this engine is the true savior of the transaxles in my opinion.

It sure as hell isn't the guys in Stutgart.

they can't even build us a nice clock to put in our consoles, an armrest that doesn't break

or steering shafts or ps pumps that DON'T FAIL

or ps lines and oil coolers that don't leak shit up and down the interstate...

hmmm....with so much disappointment in the Porsche brand, sounds like maybe you should have bought a Chevy instead.

DVC · 11-08-2009, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPR

hmmm....with so much disappointment in the Porsche brand, sounds like maybe you should have bought a Chevy instead.

I'll tell you what I find to be a disappointment; your service. I waited 6 weeks for you to deliver the product I paid you for. What's worse you wouldn't answer my emails. You have a smartass thing to say on every LSx thread. If you don't like it then don't open these topics.

DVC · 11-08-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmniGLH

A less fun but totally serious question: What kind of fuel mileage are you LSx swap guys getting?

I'm getting 26 hwy. Changing to a .73 5th soon and that should improve MPG.

CPR · 11-08-2009, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVC

I'll tell you what I find to be a disappointment; your service. I waited 6 weeks for you to deliver the product I paid you for. What's worse you wouldn't answer my emails. You have a smartass thing to say on every LSx thread. If you don't like it then don't open these topics.

DVC,

Send the part back and I'll issue you a full refund, pay for the return shipping and include 10% above what the part cost.

I am sorry my 4 months of 3 spinal surgeries, physical rehab and a resulting permanent damage inconvienced your schedule. If I could have avoided the accident it I would of, and if I had the capapbility to respond I would have done that as well.

Please forward your PayPal address and I will expedite the return shipping fees ASAP.

11-07-2009, 02:06 PM	#1
Fishey Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Lebanon, OH Posts: 4,401	944 Owners with LS1 swaps please post in here.. I just want to get a list of who has done the swap and how do you like it now? Is the car reliable? Can you drive it daily? If not why? What issues did you have with installation of the motor? If you could talk about it on the phone can I get a phone number from you? (Just PM me) Thanks in advance - Fishey (Ron Swift) __________________ Official Rennlist E-Thug! Nitrous is like a hot chick with a STD..... you know you wanna hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences..... PARTS FOR SALE!!! http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...d.php?t=242593

11-07-2009, 02:12 PM	#2
Catfood Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon Posts: 876	I know there is a guy on here with an LS2 Goat motor in his 944. Should have a lot of similarities to an LS1 swap. __________________ 1988 928 S4 White w/ black & biscuit interior AT 172K Past:1987 944S, Blue w/ black & tan interior, Autothority Chip. 208K-SOLD! 1985.5 944 NA. Red on black. Bro's car now.

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11-08-2009, 09:34 PM	#5
marky522 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Cary, nc Posts: 1,884	I havent fired mine off yet but..getting close. have been doing years of research and have my engine in place, I am doing it quite different than most. 919-760-five8three8 but wont have my phone till tomorrow morning. I do have tons of info though. Mark __________________ For your wedding photography needs: www.weddingphotographybytara.com

11-08-2009, 09:45 PM	#7
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11-08-2009, 09:41 PM	#6
odurandina Slayer of Economic Optimism Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ft Lauderdale for Feb/March. Posts: 2,092	i talked to the guys at Lingenfelter who convinced me the LS2 was the most sensible engine to use for this project... once i listened to their logic, i began doing my own research and it became even more clear that it was the superior engine to run over anything else... with the LS3 coming in second, [LS3 might actually be just be too much engine for the driveshaft/input shaft, etc to bear]. crate LS2 + Fast intake + Comp Cams mild cam + Tony Garcia + new high gears = 505 hp + we will find out.

11-08-2009, 09:56 PM	#8
Hotshoe User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: FL Posts: 79	Why would the LS2 be a better option? Are they just trying to serve their best interest and push a certain product of theirs? Are you talking a used LS2? By the time you buy the LS2 and add those mods you are probably close to the stock LS3 crate that hs a 2 year warranty and plug and play. I'm just curious because I've been leaning towards the LS3.

11-08-2009, 10:07 PM	#9
OmniGLH Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Huntley, IL Posts: 505	A less fun but totally serious question: What kind of fuel mileage are you LSx swap guys getting? My old Z06 pulled a little over 30mpg on the highway if I was gentle on it, but then that was with the C5 Z06's 6-speed, which IIRC ran in the low 2000rpm range at 70mph. My 951 is closer to 3000rpm. I'd figure 3k rpm would kill fuel mileage. I love my 951 and my Audi is going back soon (lease) and am loosely kicking around the idea of picking up a 2nd 944 to use as a DD, but swap in an LS1 to cure the reliability issues __________________ Jim (aka "Omni") '86 951 - Bilstein coilovers, Weltmeister adjustable sways, Weltmeister chip, bunch of other stuff... '03 GTI - Sachs sport shocks, Revo software, Porsche BBK (my DD) '05 A6 3.2q - Navi, XM, BT (wifey's DD)

11-08-2009, 10:13 PM	#10
odurandina Slayer of Economic Optimism Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ft Lauderdale for Feb/March. Posts: 2,092	Hotshoe-- "Why would the LS2 be a better option? Are they just trying to serve their best interest and push a certain product of theirs? Are you talking a used LS2?" that was my first impression too but simply not so. had I insisted they'd have built me an LS3 in 1 beat. they told me that I should just buy a crate LS2 engine and do the Fast Intake + Comp Cam and that they'd be happy to do head porting LATER if I decided I wanted more power. If anyone thinks an LS3 engine is a good idea for their cars I say go for it... Great guys at Lingenfelter... I was just curious to get their opinion... As far as what finally lands in your bay, I am certain that it will be far superior to nearly anything else that runs on the road... this engine is the true savior of the transaxles in my opinion. It sure as hell isn't the guys in Stutgart. they can't even build us a nice clock to put in our consoles, an armrest that doesn't break or steering shafts or ps pumps that DON'T FAIL or ps lines and oil coolers that don't leak shit up and down the interstate...