Viperns

As i've posted before my car has the 3.0 liter S2 Block but has the S head and accesories bolted to it. I'm looking at pulling it out and redoing all the seals, gaskets, belts pumps etc. Browsing 944online I started to price things out, but i'm not entirely sure what sets I use.
Do i Use the water pump set from the S2 or S(I think s2 since I have that block)? Do i use the Head Gasket set from the 944 S or S2 (i think the S since i have the S head).
Do i use the Lower engine gasket set for the S or S2 (i think s2 since i have the block)?

This is what I have added to the cart.

Go back to this product. # 1 Rebuilt 944 S2 WATER PUMP KIT $495
Go back to this product. # 2 Blue Radiator drain plug $9.11
Go back to this product. # 3 Water Wetter $11.95
Go back to this product. # 4 Water Pump Update Kit $59.95
Go back to this product. # 5 944 S & S2 Timing Cover Kit $149.95
Go back to this product. # 6 Chain Tensioner Pad Kit $152.35
Go back to this product. # 7 camshaft timing chain $21.95
Go back to this product. # 8 oil cap $14.95
Go back to this product. # 9 Oil Dipstick Tube Spacer $1.95
Go back to this product. # 10 Oil Dipstick Tube O-Ring $3.55
Go back to this product. # 11 944 S Filter Kit $44.95
Go back to this product. # 12 Complete injector kit $39.95
Go back to this product. # 13 large intake boot $60.18
Go back to this product. # 14 small intake boot $19.95
Go back to this product. # 15 944 Xenon H.I.D. Headlight Upgrade Kit
Color = Blue
Go back to this product. # 16 H4 Headlight Upgrade Deluxe Kit E-Code
Go back to this product. # 17 944 Bosch 16v TuneUp Kit $259.95
Go back to this product. # 18 944 Strut Brace $134.95
Go back to this product. # 19 lower engine gasket set $209.95
Go back to this product. # 20 Color Crested Valve Stem Cap Set $19.95
Go back to this product. # 21 hood crest kit $49.95
Go back to this product. # 22 rubber head key $8.95
Go back to this product. # 23 Odometer Gear $44.95
Go back to this product. # 24 Standard Steel Key Blank $4.95
Go back to this product. # 25 head gasket set $194.26
Go back to this product. # 26 Factory Head Stud Kit $155.95
Totals 26 Items $2795.50

Whats the difference between the S and S2 water pumps?
Can anybody think of anything I am missing? Anything extra I should do or need?
Also does anyone have any other online place that might have cheaper prices?

Thanks for all the help.

Mark944na86

Those prices look very steep. Try pelican, Zims, paragon -- those are the three I keep coming back to.

Zims rebuilt WPs have a good rep, and are much less expensive than the price above.

ilikemy944

I don't think an S head gasket is going to work on an S2 block.
Are you sure it is a S head on an S2 block? I didn't think they bolted together... I think a water passage is different.

Viperns

Absolutely positive, I have checked the block stamp and it is an s2 block. Is there a vin or model number located on the tranny? I'm curious as to what kind of tranny it is.

V2Rocket

how do you know its an S head? the two will not interchange without machining.

V2Rocket

note the different water passages, the top one is a 100mm (2.5L) 8v head, the water passage will be the same on an S head

bottom is a 104mm (2.7/3.0L) 8v with same water passage as an S2 head

Viperns

Hmm maybe it is the s2 head as well with the S accessories bolted on. Is there a way to check the cylinder head without taking it off? So in that case I buy all s2 gaskets and stuff for the block and head correct?

V2Rocket

yes youll notice in my pics that on the 104mm head there is only one bolt on the water passage whereas the 100mm has 2 bolts.

Viperns

going out to check now.,

krazykarl

I'm in the middle of a similar project rebuilding my S2 engine, I've found pelican has some of the best prices for most things except genuine porsche parts. For genuine items Sunset Porsche seems to be the best source.

Viperns

Okay took some pics of the block, and the head render your verdict.

m44/41 42k C1687

KuHL 951

Are you talking about a 16V 944S head? V2 is showing 8V heads and the only 8V 'S' head is the 951S.

Edit: Just saw the pics, 16V.

Viperns

I just don't want to order the wrong stuff.

krazykarl

So it looks like you have an S2 engine in an S body?

Rock

M44/41 is an S2 block. The Bore on that is 104mm... the bore on the "S" Engines is only 100mm.

That means it would have to use an S2 head.... The S head will only fit a 2.5 engine properly... or am I wrong?

So order the stuff for an S2 engine