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Old 12-26-2013, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicole
Here is the source: A German car magazine visited the archives and posted a series of pictures. There are quite a few interesting ones relating to the front engine Porsches; also a 965 prototype with an Audi V8 engine in the back, and in one picture, the snout of the 989 (4-seater) clay model is visible.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/b...r-7944656.html

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Great find Nicole. I doubt many outsiders have seen that warehouse.
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They still do build prototypes..but they do alot of computer modeling and simulation first...thats why cars have become better :P

Originally Posted by MAGK944
Oh the days when they actually built prototypes instead of modeling them on a computer.
Old 12-26-2013, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by morghen
They still do build prototypes..but they do alot of computer modeling and simulation first...thats why cars have become better :P
Yes I know, guess I'm old and just missing those "lets build it and see" days.
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Wow, great find.

Seems like development of front engine cars came to abrupt halt. I wonder how that decision came to life, and what were internal reactions..
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Originally Posted by MAGK944
Yes I know, guess I'm old and just missing those "lets build it and see" days.
yea...i think those were some nice times...produced some cars with character i guess.
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Originally Posted by MAGK944
Oh the days when they actually built prototypes instead of modeling them on a computer.
Don't worry, they still do.

However, yes. Designing and building a car entirely from hand no longer exists.

Great post. A lot of prototypes that have been long forgotten now surface. The amount of prototypes in those photos is astonishing. Anyone notice the RS2?

Hands down post of the year!

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Old 12-27-2013, 12:27 AM
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Thanks, all! I wish I could offer more context, but I really don't know much more than what the pictures show.

Obviously, they were trying to figure out where to take the 944, before they settled on the changes for the 968 - the line to the destination is not always straight, and this may have bee one of the detours.

I hope that one day, they'll put the 989 in the museum while I happen to visit my family in Stuttgart. Even though it's just a clay model, I would really love to see it. To me, it looks so much better than the Panamera...

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Old 12-27-2013, 12:43 AM
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for the '68, it seems they went as far as the fixed 993 style headlamps and improved interior

and moved on.
Old 12-27-2013, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by odurandina
for the '68, it seems they went as far as the fixed 993 style headlamps and improved interior

and moved on.
Noticed that too. Od, since you a '68 owner, thoughts?
As for the rear engine 944 concept, it's really great to see they tried it. Not that I doubted it, but...
The 944 turned out to be a brilliant car.
Speaking of completely handmade cars ― no computer, it was probably an explosive revelation to discover that separating the engine and transaxle, front to back, resulted in a nearly 50/50 weight distribution. It's 5 inches and wide to capitalize on this phenomenon. The late 80s was a time when Porsche needed a worthy sports car to fill a new market niche, so they presented golden technology, that they probably held for years, in the 944.

It's just kind of funny that more people might have appreciated a rear engine 944, even if it was as a sacrifice to performance.

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very cool pictures, I would love to have the opportunity to just wander that museum some day.
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https://plus.google.com/photos/11196...82061685382913

Some nice museum shots..
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Originally Posted by bonus12
...it was probably an explosive revelation to discover that separating the engine and transaxle, front to back, resulted in a nearly 50/50 weight distribution...
...and them connect them both with a solid steel shaft instead of the regular prop shaft & UJ's to cut drivetrain losses. Genius!
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The translation on the OP image:

In this 944 engineers turned simply times the drive train and flanged to a drive off the front axle. Finish was the four-wheel drive with a flat four-cylinder engine in the rear.
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Those same photos are also in English in the June 2013 issue of Road & Track, starting on page 48.


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