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Old 07-22-2003, 05:25 PM
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well i found a 85 944 going for like $6500.seems like a lot but it has a brand new paint job back to the original color red very nice job on it,new transmission, radiator,timing belt,clutch, and the interior is like brand new. no cracks on the original leather practically looks new in the inside and engine bay is clean. theres no rust on the car or dents. the car looks brand new inside and out. i think theres like 110,000 on the car. just needed some advice from some people that already got this car if its to much to pay.
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Is it an early or late 85? It sounds like a nice car but $6500 is pushing the outer envelope of what these cars are going for. For $6500 the car should be absolutely perfect. Get it checked out thoroughly. Are there records/reciepts? Make sure the belts/seals/waterpump have been done.
I just sold a very nice 85.5 for $4000. All it needed was a clutch in about six months.
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IMHO, I don't think I would pay that much. Resprays make me nervous, as they can be used to hide damage. Replaced trans is nice, but why? Has the engine been worked hard too and about to need replacing/rebuilding? The interior sounds like it has been replaced, especially for a car with 110K.

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i think its the early model but trust me its really clean in and out. i wouldnt even think of paying this much for this car but when i saw it in person it was a whole different story it looks real nice.
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Originally posted by 944pete
Is it an early or late 85? It sounds like a nice car but $6500 is pushing the outer envelope of what these cars are going for. For $6500 the car should be absolutely perfect. Get it checked out thoroughly. Are there records/reciepts? Make sure the belts/seals/waterpump have been done.
I just sold a very nice 85.5 for $4000. All it needed was a clutch in about six months.
Yeah, good point. Way too high if it doesn't have hard copies of a full service history.
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I think a lot of it depends on what the 944's sell for in your area. I have heard a lot of peple paying low prices in some areas, but I had not seen any that low in my search. Seems sorta high to me. But if thats what they go for there, it sounds like a nice car.
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I'd agree about the prices based on area. The Metro DC area seems to be on the high side based on prices I see posted here, and my recent insurance settlement. Considering most people dump 1-2K (or more) into these cars after purchase to repair neglected maintenance items, the price doesn't seem too unreasable based on your statements. Services records are great, but before dropping 6.5K get a pre-purchase inspection from a trusted mechanic or Porsche dealer, it's worth more than any service records, and is invaluable in the neogtiation process with the seller. Much overlooked is the DMV or MVA depending upon your stae to check for reported accidents. Many states provide this as a free of charge service to determine if the car has been involved in an accident before. In my experience Car Fax does not provide enough information, despite their claims, I have had cars checked that came back with only the original purchaser yet the car had 5 or more owners. Don't buy based on emotion, been there, done that too many times, I still haven't learned!

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I would tell you it is worth what you pay for it.

I bought my 924 for $1100 bucks, it was probably worth 4x that, not in condition, but in the fact it ran forever with no $$ spent on repairs.

I bought my 944 for $2250, and drove it for 3 years, sold it milkshaked for $3500. Again, worth a lot more than I paid.

I bough the 951 for $4800, drove it for 3 years for the price of a few cases of oil and a clutch. Now I am in it over $8000 in the last 6 months, for a total of $12k+, and still climbing. Not a bargain by any stretch, but I still love her.

If it is a clean car, and is as clean as you say, if you drove it for 3 years, thats about $2k a year, an absolute friggin steal on any Porsche.

Its worth what you are willing to pay, and if its as clean as you stated, it might be worth more than $6500, even with 110,000 miles. New tranny, clutch, and engine work could run you $6500 if you had to do it yourself.
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I'm going to have a 84 944 with 48000 origonal miles for sale in the coming weeks. I am doing the belts and such right now and some touch up things that I want to do before I let it go but when its ready I will put it up here. I dont know what it will bring but I am hoping upwards of 5.
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Originally posted by 944pete
Is it an early or late 85? It sounds like a nice car but $6500 is pushing the outer envelope of what these cars are going for. For $6500 the car should be absolutely perfect. Get it checked out thoroughly. Are there records/reciepts? Make sure the belts/seals/waterpump have been done.
I just sold a very nice 85.5 for $4000. All it needed was a clutch in about six months.

This only proves my point, as a clutch job can run $1500, making your 'steal' at $4000 now a $5500 car, in only 6 months.

Not to mention, there really arent that many really well kept watercoolers out there any more, at any mileage. Too many kids can buy em (not interested in hearing about how some of you are wise beyond your years and phenomenally mature, cause its a load of horse ****, I was a kid too and I KNOW better) and too many owners have not cared for them properly.

If you like the car, its not an insane amount of money to spend on a clean, well maintained car.
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The clutch on my car alone is going to run me $1700 and that is by searching for deals on parts and not going to the dealer for labor. Having the big things taken care of makes a big difference in price in my opinion, regardless of what "market value" should be.
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I still think at least service records for the past several years are in order. Again, it has been repainted and has had to have the transmission replaced, sounds to me like it has had a rough life so far.

Plus, how many cars with 110K miles genuinely have interiors that look like new? The carpets may be worn and/or faded (unless those 110K miles were driven inside or at night) the seats will show wear, and we all know about the dash. Sounds either fishy or like the potential buyer has stars in his eyes and maybe needs to go back and look after the excitement of a possible Porsche purchase wears off a bit.

I say look carefully. Look at the panel gaps, look under the car, etc. and make sure you get an inspection from someone other than the sellers mechanic.
Old 07-22-2003, 09:10 PM
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Too many kids can buy em (not interested in hearing about how some of you are wise beyond your years and phenomenally mature, cause its a load of horse ****, I was a kid too and I KNOW better)
I don't care if you don't want to hear it, the comment pisses me off and is a slap in the face to all of my hard work on my car. I've done plenty to get my car into good shape, including a clutch job, full front end rebuild (belts, seals, rollers, WP, etc.), full top end rebuild, and some electrical stuff. To say that I don't know how to maintain my car or that I'm just going to ruin it is insulting.
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Old 07-23-2003, 12:40 AM
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I wouldn't pay that much for that car; I wouldn't pay more than $3000 for that car, because it needs the work!

The only car I can think of that I'd be willing to pay $5k and over would be a black/black 951, period!

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