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Old 09-12-2015, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sausagehacker
Definitely looking for another box. This one is unknown mileage (came out of a 180k parts car) and the fluid that drained out looked like Coca cola syrup. I definitely am keeping my eyes open for a low miles 944S or S2 trans, even a 951 trans if the right one comes up. If I come across a high mileage S2 trans for the right price, I may send it to Kevin Gross for a rebuild, the last trans I'll ever buy for this car.
Are you going bigger motor wise at some point? if not the taller gearing in the turbo trans may not be great. I'd go S or S2 well before the turbo trans unless a v8 is in your future. My S2 transaxle is at 160K and doesn't whine, however it had its fluid changed every 3-5 years along the way since at least 1998 or so. I'm changing it yearly now since i'm doing auto-x/time attack in it.
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Originally Posted by Arominus
Are you going bigger motor wise at some point? if not the taller gearing in the turbo trans may not be great. I'd go S or S2 well before the turbo trans unless a v8 is in your future. My S2 transaxle is at 160K and doesn't whine, however it had its fluid changed every 3-5 years along the way since at least 1998 or so. I'm changing it yearly now since i'm doing auto-x/time attack in it.
Turbo trans in an NA is a great combo.
Been running it for 6 years now.
It feels "different" at first because of the taller gearing but in reality it is just as fast or even faster than a standard NA-gearbox car.

I have confirmed this many times in "closed course simulations"...along with other cars like Civic Si and such with similar power/weight/gearing as a standard 944. When I had the stock AFM and such installed (so stock power) my turbo-box car would pull, every time, on stock 944 NA-box cars.

The turbo box lets you go over 70mph in 2nd gear, where the NA box needs to be in 3rd to even hit 60. This is where the gearing really gives you the advantage.
Old 09-12-2015, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikemy944
Not gonna lie.
55k on my Cayman and every time I change the ratio I wish it had the 951 feel. Cables suck.
I edited this to include the fact that my 951 has 82k on it and shifts like straight up butter in comparison.
I prefer the shifter feel of both of my 944's better than my Boxster!
Old 09-13-2015, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Arominus
Are you going bigger motor wise at some point?
No real plans at this point, although if a nice S2 motor came up for sale near me I would be forced to think about it. My driving factor for a S/S2/951 trans would be durability...this is the 3rd trans the car has had (that I even know of, could be more) and the 3rd torque tube. NA transaxles haven't really struck me as durable. (OP sorry to drag the thread off topic)
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Check the connection of the rear of the shift rod to the tranny. We had some issues shifting with our race car and realized the bolts back there had backed out and worn.
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Originally Posted by BoulderGeek
I think that my synchros are exhibiting age. i try to rev match my shifts, and have learned not to fully pull off the throttle 100% when shifting. I keep about 20% pressure on the throttle, so that the revs don't dip below my target.

The difference between shifts where i heel & toe the revs or rely on the synchros are substantial.
rev matched shifts including heel toe still rely on suncro function because the speed of internal gears is still comparable to when you pushed the clutch in. to truly eliminate the syncros on a downshift you have to push the clutch in, shift to neutral, let the clutch out, then rev match, then push the clutch in complete the downshift, then let the clutch out. i have to use this tecnique on my farmall tractors that are not syncronized, and are not actually designed to be shifted while moving... they also have a hand throttle which complicates things further.

to answer your question, the 944 will never be like a 996. honestly the gear selection effort may be lower on the 986 996, but the shifter feels clunky to me, like a 90s japanese car. ive always loved the 944 shift mechanism when its in good shape. to each their own i guess
Old 09-13-2015, 12:54 PM
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The cure for a ruff shifting 944 is to spend some time behind the wheel of a Mack truck with a manual transmission. You will never think your 944 is ruff ever a again.
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There's a new kid on the block. Swepco now offers a Synthetic 75W90 gear oil:

http://www.paragon-products.com/Swep...swepco-202.htm
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Originally Posted by Jason @ Paragon Products
There's a new kid on the block. Swepco now offers a Synthetic 75W90 gear oil.
Interesting.

Jason, does Swepco say anything about compatibility with LSDs?
Old 10-08-2015, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mel_t_vin
Interesting.

Jason, does Swepco say anything about compatibility with LSDs?
Yes sir, the 202 does have a limited slip additive just like the 201.



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