Looking at ads for 944s, I find if funny...
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Looking at ads for 944s, I find if funny...
That in 1998, when I bought my first 84 944 for $4200, just about all of them had under 100k on the clock, with 80k or so. Now, nearly 20 years later, they (Early Pre 85.5) still have under 100k, with 80k or so on the clock.
I do wonder, with care, how many of these are over 200k or 300k with the odo flip and do not look like it?.
Bolster wear and shift *****, with a little dash cracking seem to be the only real hard wear items on the interior.
What was Porsche thinking with a 5 digit odometer, I guess in the 70s, cars never made it past 100k?
I do wonder, with care, how many of these are over 200k or 300k with the odo flip and do not look like it?.
Bolster wear and shift *****, with a little dash cracking seem to be the only real hard wear items on the interior.
What was Porsche thinking with a 5 digit odometer, I guess in the 70s, cars never made it past 100k?
Last edited by touareg; 08-31-2016 at 11:35 AM.
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Cars from the 50's and sixties were usually shot by 100,000 miles. Fuel injection, better lubricants and metallurgy starting in the 70's made getting to 200,000 miles commonplace.
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Was there not an issue with the odo cables breaking?
Our 944 race car has long had the odo disconnected (it shows 15k miles) and I don't recall the odo on the parts car ever turning when it ran.
Our 944 race car has long had the odo disconnected (it shows 15k miles) and I don't recall the odo on the parts car ever turning when it ran.
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Drifting
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Sorry, I meant to direct this at early 85 and earlier cars, not the 85.5. All the later cars appear in my browsing to skew towards the high 100s, or 200s, but the early cars, a lot seem to be sub 100k. Did the early cars wear better, are they really under 100k, do people find them more collectible and drove them less?
Just curious of peoples' experiences. I have seen some turbos with 90k on the clock with interiors that look like 300k, and some, like my 968 with 150k look like a 80k car.
Just curious of peoples' experiences. I have seen some turbos with 90k on the clock with interiors that look like 300k, and some, like my 968 with 150k look like a 80k car.
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I have 3 cars, 2 of them have over 100k, one is 140k and another is 155k, both daily drivers! The 2010 one, however is much newer and is holding out well except for the bolster and steering wheel, and the pull handle, all replaced (Cheaper than buying a new car)
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I think I remember that happening on my 84, soo long ago, I had that car for 2 years, loved it, but had to upgrade to a 951 So I did.
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No issues w/ the cables- the odometer runs off the same hard line as the speedometer. What does fail a LOT in the early cars is the same gear problem that's common with the later models, and, somewhat less often, the gear slips on the shaft itself. Both are readily repairable if you have any knowledge and time, but are easy to ignore too.
And 100K being worn out? Yeah, my '84 has somewhere around 200-250k miles on it (and is only getting better since I bought it a year ago and actually started fixing things, unlike the previous 3+ owners), and my wife's 2003 Golf TDi has 235k on it. Both are daily drivers, and have been rock solid reliable. They need maintenance periodically, but both have been great about warning us before breaking, as long as we're paying attention to them.
And 100K being worn out? Yeah, my '84 has somewhere around 200-250k miles on it (and is only getting better since I bought it a year ago and actually started fixing things, unlike the previous 3+ owners), and my wife's 2003 Golf TDi has 235k on it. Both are daily drivers, and have been rock solid reliable. They need maintenance periodically, but both have been great about warning us before breaking, as long as we're paying attention to them.
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Sorry, I meant to direct this at early 85 and earlier cars, not the 85.5. All the later cars appear in my browsing to skew towards the high 100s, or 200s, but the early cars, a lot seem to be sub 100k. Did the early cars wear better, are they really under 100k, do people find them more collectible and drove them less?
Just curious of peoples' experiences. I have seen some turbos with 90k on the clock with interiors that look like 300k, and some, like my 968 with 150k look like a 80k car.
Just curious of peoples' experiences. I have seen some turbos with 90k on the clock with interiors that look like 300k, and some, like my 968 with 150k look like a 80k car.
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Records are the 'tell'
Not true about the series one cars having a lot of miles.
Every one of mine with the exception of 1 ( and that one has 130,000 miles ) are well under 100,000 miles. In fact well under 70,000 miles with several at mileage of 28,000 , 40,000, 54,000 - ( 951 ), and 55,000. I also know of at least 8 others locally with under 60,000. These are all long term ownership cars and several are the original owners like myself.
You can tell by looking at certain wear points what is low mileage and what is 100 over.
It takes a bit of a trained eye, but anyone can get to that level after viewing a good number of cars. or buying a few, dealing with them or repairing them.
Maintenance records and diligent attention to detail are one's friends.
Not true about the series one cars having a lot of miles.
Every one of mine with the exception of 1 ( and that one has 130,000 miles ) are well under 100,000 miles. In fact well under 70,000 miles with several at mileage of 28,000 , 40,000, 54,000 - ( 951 ), and 55,000. I also know of at least 8 others locally with under 60,000. These are all long term ownership cars and several are the original owners like myself.
You can tell by looking at certain wear points what is low mileage and what is 100 over.
It takes a bit of a trained eye, but anyone can get to that level after viewing a good number of cars. or buying a few, dealing with them or repairing them.
Maintenance records and diligent attention to detail are one's friends.