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CANCELLED - PCA Parade in Palm Springs - June 21 - 27, 2020
Today registration for the 2020 PCA Parade opened. June 21-27 in Palm Springs.
I'm going and hopefully I can get a slot for the Autocross.
Maybe we can make a decent showing.
Today registration for the 2020 PCA Parade opened. June 21-27 in Palm Springs.
I'm going and hopefully I can get a slot for the Autocross.
Maybe we can make a decent showing.
Cool! We're in, Sue got us signed up for lodging this morning.
Events open March 31, we're planning on autocross also. Hopefully the cones will be farther apart than what our local group likes to do.
And we'll skip concours until they come up with a class for cars that are actually driven.
Cool! We're in, Sue got us signed up for lodging this morning.
Events open March 31, we're planning on autocross also. Hopefully the cones will be farther apart than what our local group likes to do.
And we'll skip concours until they come up with a class for cars that are actually driven.
Mark says i should go to concours..but this statement worries me.
Theyre all fun, always are..but I do not enjoy the uneven table of _detail_ when its driven -vs- stored.
PCA does have different concours classes, but the rules all boil down to them being a clean car contest. My recent favorite was the deduction given for the fingerprint left on the windshield by removing the placard under the windshield wiper but using less than sterile technique. If there were still a rolleyes emoticon on RL, I'd use it here.
PCA does have different concours classes, but the rules all boil down to them being a clean car contest. My recent favorite was the deduction given for the fingerprint left on the windshield by removing the placard under the windshield wiper but using less than sterile technique. If there were still a rolleyes emoticon on RL, I'd use it here.
Wash and shine is the category used in my local region PCA for cars that are actually driven. They only look at the outside surfaces (no interior or inner barrels of wheels) and it's fine to have touched up stone chips as well.
The goal is to have your car the cleanest possible without going full concourse. They expect you to drive the car there and deduct points if its trailered lol.
I'll be there as well. Got into the host hotel but got wait listed for the final night so we'll see what happens. The eye roll emotocon is rolleyes with colons such as
This past year our local chapter started a “Werkes-style Judging” category. I entered my GT in this category, since my competition over the years at our Concours was a garage queen 944 that would come to the event with plastic bags on the seats and custom plastic bumper guard to avoid wear. Only taken and sometimes trailered to events. Also had 2-3 people there to do final clean up and prep on the field. Judging for Werkes-style class looks at cleanliness but asks how the car has been used, driven, uniqueness etc. (shameless plug....I took first in my class this year!). Maybe the Parade should consider start including this type category going forward..
Northeast Chapter new Concours Category.
“A new category, “Werks-style Judging”, will be added this year. PCA has been organizing Werks Reunion events at the Monterey and Amelia Island car weeks for several years now. Participants in Werks Reunion events still prepare their cars for the concours, but unlike traditional Full Concours or Parade style judging, Werks considers not only the appearance but also the history of the car, its usage by the owners, and overall aesthetic appeal. By combining both subjective and objective elements, Werks style judging creates a somewhat more relaxed environment and encourages participation by a wide variety of interesting Porsches. At Werks Reunions in Monterey and Amelia Island, you’ll find everything from highly authentic restored cars, Le Mans winning race cars, outlaw & hot rod style Porsche builds, and unique original cars.”
The 928 classes for Concours have not been overly populated, as the 911's are. I would encourage anyone to give it a shot
I competed in the 2011 Savannah Georgia Parade in PP09T Class and Preparation Group. I won that class. I drove to Savannah from Charlottesville, Virginia. After washing the car on Friday afternoon in a loading dock, the car would not start. Turns out the contacts of the ignition pack under the hood got wet. It was a phone call to a fellow Rennlister to help solve the problem. All of Saturday was spent cleaning everywhere. I was dinged some points for a couple of stray dog hairs from our yellow Labrador.
I then competed in the autocross and came in third, after two 968's Lots of preparation Concours on Sunday, AutoX on Wednesday. Judging Not bad for a 160,000 mile 928 Clean, clean, clean George & Pam Michael's 1991 GT was also there. Always a winner.
PCA has basically a wash and shine group. They judge just the exterior and interior. Stuff you clean whenever you wash your car. No engine, suspension or storage areas.
So here's what I do at Parade Concours. Same thing I did at Werks. I pay the Concours or in the case of Werks, the judged, entry fee. I get to park on the main display field. I get my concours/judged sheets when I register and then I write DO NOT JUDGE. I basically disqualify myself but I get to show the car off, meet people, not be stressed and I could care less about a trophy. With Werks I get a nice placard about the car that I always display in the garage and sometimes at events.
Not for everyone, but it makes for some great stories. At the Tampa Parade, I showed my 90 911C2 Club Race car. Judge didn't know how to judge the front bumper because it had so many chips on it. I said "how about 1/10 point for every chip?" He looked at it and said "I'll run out of points". That's when I decided just to tell the judges to save themselves 15 minutes and not judge the car.
At the Vermont Parade I drove behind a truck leaking transmission fluid at some point in my trip. Only thing that would take the dried fluid was brake clean. It also wiped off all the wax. On my hand written placard, I wrote 'prepped with only the best Walmart brake clean" or something like that. I do remember people taking photos of the placard.
Thanks, Manny, good perspective. We decided "never again" after the Concours in Vermont a couple of years ago but we will reconsider following your lead.
We drove the '90GT from Seattle, around 260K miles at that time and shows pretty well. Or so we thought. We spent the requisite couple of days cleaning the bugs off, missed a pine needle in the e-brake slot and multiple points off for dust on the underside of the alternator belt. Then the judges spent another 10 minutes trying to decide if the right front fender had been repainted or not. (Prep/touring class, repaints don't matter).
Street class, do not judge. Or maybe pine needles all over the carpet. Nice spot on the lawn, have some fun. I am liking that, just gotta sell it to the owner...
Ive got too much going on between Badlands and another car thing im driving to in Toronto to stand in the sun in Palm Springs and get scowled at by PCA judges.
I had to deal with a gaggle of em at works last year that spent -3- minutes on a water spot half hidden under the edge of a tail light.
They're told at works to pull the stick out of their asses for Works, they required reminding.
Ive got too much going on between Badlands and another car thing im driving to in Toronto to stand in the sun in Palm Springs and get scowled at by PCA judges.
I had to deal with a gaggle of em at works last year that spent -3- minutes on a water spot half hidden under the edge of a tail light.
They're told at works to pull the stick out of their asses for Works, they required reminding.
Werks is supposed to be about historical correctness and quality preservation. Judging factors to include the history and daily use of the car. Or at least that's what explained to us in concours school that was put on by 2 current Werks judges and 2 past judges.
01-28-2020, 09:28 PM
CANCELLED - PCA Parade in Palm Springs - June 21 - 27, 2020
