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Old 02-16-2020, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmerlin
I had an opportunity to drive Vans terrific car at Sharktoberfest.
Its really smooth and powerful, and pretty.
everywhere you look it screams money,, thusly well spent.
The paint, the the interior, the engine ,
a very nice example that can also be daily driven.
Well done to all who put this machine together!
Thanks!

After the "fire", Van turned the entire project over to us. We either did everything or sent it out to "our" people (paint.)
Just like a restoration, everything in the engine compartment had to be removed to repaint that. All of those pieces needed attention, before they could be re-used. Parts of the suspension were "melted" and had to be addressed.
Van's not only a class act, but a car guy, to the bone. He was pretty understanding, except for when the paint was months and months overdue.
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:02 PM
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Van was in Tucson in visiting family not long ago and threw me the keys to his gb stroker. In return I threw him the keys to the MY15 991.1 GTS (no slouch)... and do think I had more fun. Also don't forget I'm also comparing Van's 86.5 to Just Peachy...also no slouch. If anyone is on the fence on purchasing a gb stroker and has the funds....go for it and to put it in one word: "Thoroughbred". T


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Old 02-17-2020, 04:46 PM
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My role in this project was to help get the car running initially after Van got it so it could catch on fire. Without my contribution, the car probably would still be unrestored and never would have made the cover of Panorama.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:13 PM
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Well done Bill
that goes without saying,
your one of the foundation caretakers, that has shepherded many ,
on the road to repair of their very own 928.
And you know how to Weld spider gears with a boosted engine,
and demonstrate Lucas smoke at the same time.
Well done my friend !
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:28 PM
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Stan, maybe you didn't catch my sarcasm. It could be you and others are not aware of the fire that damaged this car extensively. I believe I'm at least partially responsible for the fire that precipitated the restoration. When the car arrived after Van bought it several years ago, it would not run. I went over to help Van. As part of addressing that Van and I worked on the fuel rails. I noticed one of the injectors would pull out of the rail pretty easily. I'm very careful to seat the injector clips, so I took a look at this one. It was seated but it still seemed a bit too easy to pop off. I more carefully seated it hearing that reassuring click as the clip seats and went on with finishing the job. A couple of days later the fire happened as Van was putting around Oakland, and there is fair evidence the fire started near that injector. So, I have carried some guilt that I may not have carefully enough inspected that injector. I don't know. The fire was devastating. And Van took the opportunity to seriously upgrade the car into the phenomenal example it is today, going far beyond what was needed to get it back to its pre-fire state. So, only from this perverted viewpoint would I claim any credit for the final result. Full credit goes to Van, Greg Brown and others that took the burned hulk and made it better than ever. Not me. I certainly wasn't trying to boast in my post above.
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Note to self, do not hit injectors with a wooden dowel to unclog it in situ.....
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Here comes a dumb question from an noob, but is there any sense in putting one of those strokers in an auto car? Asking for a friend
Also great article, I flipped out when I saw the cover today.
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Just got mine today!
Bravo Van.
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Originally Posted by abrescia
Here comes a dumb question from an noob, but is there any sense in putting one of those strokers in an auto car? Asking for a friend
Also great article, I flipped out when I saw the cover today.
Heck ya, why not?

It's not like you have the weak transmission or anything .
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Old 02-19-2020, 02:46 AM
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Of course! Rogerboxes will absorb huge amounts of power very safely and effectively.
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Of course! Rogerboxes will absorb huge amounts of power very safely and effectively.
hmmm...so then I wonder what the over/under price of such a conversion could cost. I’m going to throw 15k out there as a starting point...
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Originally Posted by abrescia
hmmm...so then I wonder what the over/under price of such a conversion could cost. I’m going to throw 15k out there as a starting point...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say way under.
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Originally Posted by GregBBRD
I believe that article, along with the writer/test driver/clutch destroyer, was sh!tcanned and that this is a completely new article about this magnificent vehicle.
They had to have dropped the clutch a ton of times. I got a clutch this year. With Greg's hose it works so well I can feel each disk engage separately...going forward or reverse. and I've shifted that car so hard going into 3rd you'd have thought the Jolly Green Giant had given it a good hard kick. I have a good shop and I know I'm very fortunate.

Anyone that drops a clutch in this car needs their head kicked by the Jolly Green Giant.
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Originally Posted by abrescia
hmmm...so then I wonder what the over/under price of such a conversion could cost. I’m going to throw 15k out there as a starting point...

To my understanding, a GB stroker engine ITSELF starts at $40k, the rest of the conversion goes up from there...
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Of course! Rogerboxes will absorb huge amounts of power very safely and effectively.
Yes.

Until a month ago, when I finally made a butter smooth clutch that would "hold" the torque from a 6.5 liter engine, I was to the point where I was only building 6.5 liter engines for the automatics.

Andy's 605HP, 500 ft lbs of toque from 5,000 to 7,000 rpms was married to an automatic, which I "beefed up" to absorb all that torque.

The automatic cars I've built are....wonderful.


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