Just wrapped up a ~2K mile winter road trip
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Just wrapped up a ~2K mile winter road trip
..to SLC and back.
Way out was just after a large Sierra storm, but dry, and dry to SLC from there.
Met @Scott Peterson while I was there, turns out we'd done some parts business in the past, saw his steal of a 928..great story on that one.
The big storm that hit NorCal Friday/Saturday hit the great basin and "evolved" into a moderate snow event..woke up at 8am Sunday in SLC and told the wife "uh oh, we leave this second"...glad we did.
But we still drove through long stretches of snow the whole way to about Lovelock, NV. From there on no more precip. But the Sierra roads were still wet, just we never got over 7-15mph for about 3hrs. Drive out was 9hrs, home was 13hrs, and hit 171.5k at the garage.
Blizzak WS90s are a -very- competent snow tire, and is not really noisy at all. We could -just- hear em in the cabin, they came in handy for sight seeing around SLC, and on the way back crossing a few high passes in NV that required snows or chains.
My chains are the Konig CS-9 102. Extremely simple to install, maybe 90sec per side with cold hands. Nearly instant to come off...and only a 9mm profile off the tire too.
I don't see a noticeable drop in oil level either.
The "dirty car" photos at the end..just a fun review of where IS and IS NOT on the shape of a 928. Beyond the 'break line' in the dirt on the front bumper cover..airflow is disconnected from the surface of the car, snow/debris coming at you..never touches the car until the windscreen where the mass of material breaks through the relatively "still" air that for the most part is nearly at rest at the surface. Note the hood, which is a large high pressure surface of mostly still air...900 miles of crap thrown at the car on the way home, and its just dribbles of dirty water from the bumper that collected. The roof is mostly clean, the top of the hatch is..just plain clean..the rear bumper is a good idea how much turbulent drag is back there..
Other areas (A long high speed drive on a rainy day allows this too) let me see where to next focus on sound proofing the cabin by resolving noise where it happens...which is always cheaper than once it's in the chassis. Mainly large gaps that create enough turbulence to disturb laminar flow over the surface.
Photos: (In no particular order)
Way out was just after a large Sierra storm, but dry, and dry to SLC from there.
Met @Scott Peterson while I was there, turns out we'd done some parts business in the past, saw his steal of a 928..great story on that one.
The big storm that hit NorCal Friday/Saturday hit the great basin and "evolved" into a moderate snow event..woke up at 8am Sunday in SLC and told the wife "uh oh, we leave this second"...glad we did.
But we still drove through long stretches of snow the whole way to about Lovelock, NV. From there on no more precip. But the Sierra roads were still wet, just we never got over 7-15mph for about 3hrs. Drive out was 9hrs, home was 13hrs, and hit 171.5k at the garage.
Blizzak WS90s are a -very- competent snow tire, and is not really noisy at all. We could -just- hear em in the cabin, they came in handy for sight seeing around SLC, and on the way back crossing a few high passes in NV that required snows or chains.
My chains are the Konig CS-9 102. Extremely simple to install, maybe 90sec per side with cold hands. Nearly instant to come off...and only a 9mm profile off the tire too.
I don't see a noticeable drop in oil level either.
The "dirty car" photos at the end..just a fun review of where IS and IS NOT on the shape of a 928. Beyond the 'break line' in the dirt on the front bumper cover..airflow is disconnected from the surface of the car, snow/debris coming at you..never touches the car until the windscreen where the mass of material breaks through the relatively "still" air that for the most part is nearly at rest at the surface. Note the hood, which is a large high pressure surface of mostly still air...900 miles of crap thrown at the car on the way home, and its just dribbles of dirty water from the bumper that collected. The roof is mostly clean, the top of the hatch is..just plain clean..the rear bumper is a good idea how much turbulent drag is back there..
Other areas (A long high speed drive on a rainy day allows this too) let me see where to next focus on sound proofing the cabin by resolving noise where it happens...which is always cheaper than once it's in the chassis. Mainly large gaps that create enough turbulence to disturb laminar flow over the surface.
Photos: (In no particular order)
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Nice wind tunnel test and conclusions. Awesome you're using the car as Ferry intended!
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Long distance winter driving can be intense but fun at the same time. My CSS becomes my winter beater with a set of Blizzaks and it will go anywhere as long as the snow isn't >4". Here's a pic of my wind tunnel testing from a few yrs ago.
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That's cool. You can see the concentration of airflow right into that rear quarter inlet and also that the small ducktail spoiler is the only thing effecting the airflow and adding turbulence at the rear.
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Tires make all the difference in the winter!
These are my tracks from a week ago pulling into the Car Cave with the Cayenne and its suspension raised to high... You must have driven through the same storm... WOW! In a 928!
I don't drive my 928's in the winter because of the salt and the fact that they have never been exposed to it.
But I did pull one out into the parking lot with only 3" of wet snow on the ground - - - stuck immediately with its wide summer tires. Made me laugh a bit to think of what you pulled off. Porsche did design these cars with robust corrosion resistance and a climate control system that defaults to heat if there is a problem, so if there were ever a winter supercar, the 928 is it!
Great winter tires are the cheapest insurance on can ever buy, because the accident you did not get into is the best result of any drive...
Thanks for the story and pictures, an inspiration for the less intrepid!
These are my tracks from a week ago pulling into the Car Cave with the Cayenne and its suspension raised to high... You must have driven through the same storm... WOW! In a 928!
I don't drive my 928's in the winter because of the salt and the fact that they have never been exposed to it.
But I did pull one out into the parking lot with only 3" of wet snow on the ground - - - stuck immediately with its wide summer tires. Made me laugh a bit to think of what you pulled off. Porsche did design these cars with robust corrosion resistance and a climate control system that defaults to heat if there is a problem, so if there were ever a winter supercar, the 928 is it!
Great winter tires are the cheapest insurance on can ever buy, because the accident you did not get into is the best result of any drive...
Thanks for the story and pictures, an inspiration for the less intrepid!
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Glad to see those tires work so well. I've been hearing about them being extremely competent over the years but now with more proof, and on a 928 to boot!
I've only gotten my 928 dirtier than that once and it was outrunning landslides in Malibu. I learned that we do have snow plows in SoCal, but to push boulders down cliffsides lol.
Otherwise, it's great you had an otherwise uneventful and safe trip.
I've only gotten my 928 dirtier than that once and it was outrunning landslides in Malibu. I learned that we do have snow plows in SoCal, but to push boulders down cliffsides lol.
Otherwise, it's great you had an otherwise uneventful and safe trip.
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HI Jeff - this looks awesome. Glad to see the SJ steam cleaners still in bus. What did they charge you this time around ? Think I paid something like $400 last time I was there