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Old 02-26-2024, 12:12 AM
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Seeking some advice from the 928 experts on this forum:
My car is a 1987 S4 auto, 70,000 miles, well cared-for daily driver.
Recently while driving I'm seeing the voltage meter shoot up to 16 volts, also a high-pitched noise from the front of the car (probably the alternator) the central warning light flashes and tacho needle swings. If I pull over and restart the car the problem goes away for a while..then returns again. Normal charging at idle and driving is a little over 14 volts. I have replaced the voltage regulator and the condenser but the problem remains, the battery is new.
So, am I looking at replacing the alternator or is there another issue to be considered? The alternator is original afaik so probably 37+ years old. I live in Brunei in S.E Asia and all parts have to be shipped-in so a heavy alternator is an expensive purchase.
Thanks for any advice given. Joe.

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Old 02-26-2024, 06:19 AM
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Did you check the slip rings before installing the new regulator they should be smooth you might need to get them replaced a rebuilder can do that

What brand of regulator did you install it should only be Bosch
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A battery can't take 16v for very long. You run the risk of damaging it or it exploding. I think it's new alternator time.
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Slip rings looked ok, the regulator was a Bosch item from Pelican. I guess it may be an internal fault in the alternator...
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Why not try replacing the regulator built onto the alternator? It's not that difficult to do, would be less expensive, and could solve your shipping issue into Brunei.
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The Rectifier assembly? Thought that was a job for the rebuild guys, will look into it, thanks.
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I'd suspect the battery connections are loose and its dropping out of the circuit when you see the high voltage.

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Checked, they seem tight enough. If the high voltage occurs and I pull over and turn off then restart, the voltage goes back to normal (for a few days).
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Then based on the same reasoning I'd tighten the the battery ground grounding bolt and/or replace the ground strap - its easy enough to do, and the strap is a well known intermittent failure point.
You can try wiggling the ground strap while the car is exhibiting the issue - move the end near the ground point and see if it changes anything, if needed get better access & wiggle the whole thing.

I'd just replace it anyway - I replaced the strap on my GTS many years ago - and it really needed it.

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When the problem occurs, measure voltage at jump post and at battery. If jump post voltage is high and battery is not, you know you have a connection problem.
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Originally Posted by depami
When the problem occurs, measure voltage at jump post and at battery. If jump post voltage is high and battery is not, you know you have a connection problem.
If you are losing the battery ground that won't be the case at all (e.g. battery +ve and Jump post will still be the same relative to chassis ground).

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Originally Posted by Alan
If you are losing the battery ground that won't be the case at all (e.g. battery +ve and Jump post will still be the same relative to chassis ground).

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You are correct. I guess I should have stated the obvious, measure battery post to post, not from chassis. To me, that's a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by depami
You are correct. I guess I should have stated the obvious, measure battery post to post, not from chassis. To me, that's a no brainer.
Actually I think that is a far from obvious distinction for most people...

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Thanks for the suggestions. The ground strap was replaced a couple of years ago and all seems good in that area. I'll do the voltage checks when it next occurs. One additional issue I've just noticed; under hard acceleration the volt meter needle fluctuates like crazy (usually quite steady).
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So maybe not at the battery connections - but still sounds like possibly an intermittent connection somewhere else. Of course it could be intermittent within the battery itself (plate connections etc) - has it been changed since these issues started? can you try another?

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