MY94 928 GTS - New car in the family
#16
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I have no experience with the later model cars, but for early models the red key is the non-alarm key, also sometimes called the "valet" key. It does not arm/disarm the alarm via the door or hatch locks, but should still start the car. The black keys will arm/disarm the alarm, unlock all locks, and start the car.
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I have no experience with the later model cars, but for early models the red key is the non-alarm key, also sometimes called the "valet" key. It does not arm/disarm the alarm via the door or hatch locks, but should still start the car. The black keys will arm/disarm the alarm, unlock all locks, and start the car.
Strange to me honestly, unless smn replaced the ignition barrel or all door locks?
My short red key has different cuts than the long black - checked the manual, the black one is longer as the tip is extended to arm/disarm the alarm, therefore in theory the red one should be a subset of the black one, but it isn't in my case. Will need to take a closer look into that. Certainly I want a single "master" key, or S-key as stated in the manual.
#19
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very nice and welcome..........as many have already noted get all maintenance complete and while checking ride height and alignment consider new suspension components.
nice to see another well used...........we have almost 200k kms on our 928 GTS
nice to see another well used...........we have almost 200k kms on our 928 GTS
#21
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As I researched the web it seems early MY94 still had the CUP1.
Nevertheless these are not 928GTS CUP1 wheels, but the 964 turbo ones.
I’m considering changing those to three piece alloys in similar design to CUP1.
EDIT:
Thanks guys for warm welcome and hints what to do and check initially. If possible please add a photo or a diagram next time - not a native here, and a 928 newbie, so from the words it not always make sense to me (just rings a bell)
For sure I will do all the maintenance stuff, but want to leave all the bigger works for later and just have some fun with the car.
Brakes is a must, the rest can wait some time.
The registry of service works is quite long (these are for around 20k EUR from last 8-9 years) with milage and brief description what was done.
Timing belts and water pump was done like 4k km ago, but as usual I can't find any trace of brake fluid being replaced recently - not sure why people are not replacing that in non-racing cars every 2 years or so honestly.
When doing checks with my Hammer I did all the listening to the clicks stuff, so it all seems ok. Both engine and PSD.
Gearbox was rebuilt or rather had full inspection as is was not smooth just few thousands km ago.
Wheel alignment needs to be done, I will do it on my own (I have a set for that, but it requires lifting the car for compensation of the wheels) probably together with ride height (as noted it's to low, especially front).
I'm still trying to figure out the car keys. I have 2 - long black with porsche crest and the "torch" and a shorter red one. The red one does ignition and I think fuel cap, the black one all the doors and trunk, but not ignition - is it normal that way? Seems strange.
Audio head unit needs to be replaced and I need to search the wiring diagrams for the amplifier, as when amp is connected to the back of the head unit (not a factory one), the fuse is blown.
Without the amp being connected the head unit turns on and the fuse survives.
Also passenger side electric window does not work as intended - the button needs to be pressed all the time to close/open the window, while driver side works as touch - move a bit, hold for 2-3 seconds and window opens/closes fully.
Sunroof makes strange noises, but opens and closes fully.
Intake seals/gaskets were replaced 2-3 years ago ask there was some leakage and it lead to sharp idle.
In general it seems the car is not a contest winner, but kind of a daily that had all the regular works done when needed / something broke.
Having a friend with a nice 928 and another one with a 928 that was stuck for years, I decided to go with a car that was driven all the time until recently rather a car that was sitting in the garage for years to save the milage.
I will try to post some updates on the works as well as some discoveries about the car.
Probably some questions as well.
Lot to read on the forum, but not much time for it.
As I researched the web it seems early MY94 still had the CUP1.
Nevertheless these are not 928GTS CUP1 wheels, but the 964 turbo ones.
I’m considering changing those to three piece alloys in similar design to CUP1.
EDIT:
Thanks guys for warm welcome and hints what to do and check initially. If possible please add a photo or a diagram next time - not a native here, and a 928 newbie, so from the words it not always make sense to me (just rings a bell)
For sure I will do all the maintenance stuff, but want to leave all the bigger works for later and just have some fun with the car.
Brakes is a must, the rest can wait some time.
The registry of service works is quite long (these are for around 20k EUR from last 8-9 years) with milage and brief description what was done.
Timing belts and water pump was done like 4k km ago, but as usual I can't find any trace of brake fluid being replaced recently - not sure why people are not replacing that in non-racing cars every 2 years or so honestly.
When doing checks with my Hammer I did all the listening to the clicks stuff, so it all seems ok. Both engine and PSD.
Gearbox was rebuilt or rather had full inspection as is was not smooth just few thousands km ago.
Wheel alignment needs to be done, I will do it on my own (I have a set for that, but it requires lifting the car for compensation of the wheels) probably together with ride height (as noted it's to low, especially front).
I'm still trying to figure out the car keys. I have 2 - long black with porsche crest and the "torch" and a shorter red one. The red one does ignition and I think fuel cap, the black one all the doors and trunk, but not ignition - is it normal that way? Seems strange.
Audio head unit needs to be replaced and I need to search the wiring diagrams for the amplifier, as when amp is connected to the back of the head unit (not a factory one), the fuse is blown.
Without the amp being connected the head unit turns on and the fuse survives.
Also passenger side electric window does not work as intended - the button needs to be pressed all the time to close/open the window, while driver side works as touch - move a bit, hold for 2-3 seconds and window opens/closes fully.
Sunroof makes strange noises, but opens and closes fully.
Intake seals/gaskets were replaced 2-3 years ago ask there was some leakage and it lead to sharp idle.
In general it seems the car is not a contest winner, but kind of a daily that had all the regular works done when needed / something broke.
Having a friend with a nice 928 and another one with a 928 that was stuck for years, I decided to go with a car that was driven all the time until recently rather a car that was sitting in the garage for years to save the milage.
I will try to post some updates on the works as well as some discoveries about the car.
Probably some questions as well.
Lot to read on the forum, but not much time for it.
A 1994 was delivered with two identical keys (long), with light and a spare one (long also) without light. All of them were of the same length and have the same function. This applies to all the 1988 and later cars, to my knowledge. Alarm was standard from 1988 (the only exception being the 1988 CS, without alarm and central door locking system).
The ignition lock was certainly changed for a earlier one. The same was done to my 1988 CS but I've order a new one from Porsche, matching the original locks.
Last edited by 928cs; 03-14-2024 at 05:56 AM.
#22
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Well I think it may be the case with the ignition lock being replaced.
The color of the key matches the "spare" lock that is available...
As of the wheels, for sure my CUP 1 did not come with the car, but I like the CUP 1 design. More than the CUP 2.
The color of the key matches the "spare" lock that is available...
As of the wheels, for sure my CUP 1 did not come with the car, but I like the CUP 1 design. More than the CUP 2.
#23
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[QUOTE=928cs;19331641]I have never seen a 1994 with Cup I wheels from factory. Your car is a 1994 Indeed, from the VIN.
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At least for the N. American market, the very early 1994 GTS's came with cup I wheels. It seems they wanted to use up the inventory of the 'older design' wheels before mounting the Cup II wheels on their new cars.
The '94's and '95's have a few nice upgrades for the GTS model.
Beautiful color. I highly recommend following Mrmerlin's suggestions, as well as those from No Vector about servicing the PSD system.
Guten Gluck,
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At least for the N. American market, the very early 1994 GTS's came with cup I wheels. It seems they wanted to use up the inventory of the 'older design' wheels before mounting the Cup II wheels on their new cars.
The '94's and '95's have a few nice upgrades for the GTS model.
Beautiful color. I highly recommend following Mrmerlin's suggestions, as well as those from No Vector about servicing the PSD system.
Guten Gluck,
Last edited by Gary Knox; 03-14-2024 at 10:42 AM.
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Great color! I was surprised to find that Midnight blue metallic is the most common color for a GTS, 653 out of a total of 2887 GTSs worldwide.
#26
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Welcome to the 928 forum Konrad! Great car and colour and just barley broken in at 237k km. I've got a '93 GTS with 243k km and it always brings a smile to my face when I drive it.
Lots of good folks here with of experience and free advice.
All the best,
Joe
Lots of good folks here with of experience and free advice.
All the best,
Joe
#27
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Guys I'm puzzled. The PO fitted aftermarket Blaupunkt radio.
According to the "birth certificate" I received, this 928 came with Option 334 - Radio Bremen ROM 42
I Expect this is not ROM, but RCM, but then RCM42 is only (google search) Heidelberg, not Bremen.
Here I can see similar discussion:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-or-rcm43.html
Does this mean my late 93 (MY94) car should come with CDC1 or with RCM43? Or something else?
Many thanks!
According to the "birth certificate" I received, this 928 came with Option 334 - Radio Bremen ROM 42
I Expect this is not ROM, but RCM, but then RCM42 is only (google search) Heidelberg, not Bremen.
Here I can see similar discussion:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-or-rcm43.html
Does this mean my late 93 (MY94) car should come with CDC1 or with RCM43? Or something else?
Many thanks!
#28
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It's not so obvious. The PET lists the RCM 42 Bremen and the RCM 43 Bremen, with the equipment code M334 for both the 964 and the 993.
Reference of the head unit is 993 645 101 00 is the car was ordered with M334 only and 993 645 103 00 is order with M334 and M692 (CD autochanger "Porsche ").
https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzei...45425-223-7619
Reference of the head unit is 993 645 101 00 is the car was ordered with M334 only and 993 645 103 00 is order with M334 and M692 (CD autochanger "Porsche ").
https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzei...45425-223-7619
Last edited by 928cs; 03-18-2024 at 12:09 PM.
#29
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So I got the radio. Bremen RCM 43. Wanted to attach photo, but it hangs at 90% of upload :-(
Doing also major work on the brakes. Basically doing also the wheel bearings, new rotors’ shields / covers (front corroded, rear corroded at mounting bolts) and all around while I’m there.
Also I will do an upgrade for the rear brakes.
I will use the 964 turbo rear rotors, which are basically same as GTS but 4mm thicker and drilled. I will use the 964 turbo 3.6 caliper with 30/34 pistons rather than OEM 28/30.
Maybe a bigger MC as well. We’ll see.
This should move the bias slightly to the rear, as it seems factory went for easy stuff and upgraded the front brakes in GTS only, while they should do both.
Will try to attach photos later from my laptop.
Doing also major work on the brakes. Basically doing also the wheel bearings, new rotors’ shields / covers (front corroded, rear corroded at mounting bolts) and all around while I’m there.
Also I will do an upgrade for the rear brakes.
I will use the 964 turbo rear rotors, which are basically same as GTS but 4mm thicker and drilled. I will use the 964 turbo 3.6 caliper with 30/34 pistons rather than OEM 28/30.
Maybe a bigger MC as well. We’ll see.
This should move the bias slightly to the rear, as it seems factory went for easy stuff and upgraded the front brakes in GTS only, while they should do both.
Will try to attach photos later from my laptop.
#30
Team Owner
UMM before you put any money into the car you should check the flex plate thrust bearing clearance.
Yes the first thing to check / fix
Yes the first thing to check / fix
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