CORRECTED: RMP dependent driveline vibration that stops when clutch pedal is pressed
#16
Burning Brakes
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I did send them a message and immediately afterwards figured how to edit the Title of my thread and removed and disparaging references and asked that they now ignore my request for removal. So hopefully it stays.
#17
Burning Brakes
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You can open the inspection cover on the bell housing and take a look in there.
Although possible that the TT bearings have gone south [again] I would think it somewhat unlikely unless something has excited premature failure.
Are the symptoms identical to the original failure you experienced thus causing you to believe the problem is the TT bearings again?
Although possible that the TT bearings have gone south [again] I would think it somewhat unlikely unless something has excited premature failure.
Are the symptoms identical to the original failure you experienced thus causing you to believe the problem is the TT bearings again?
#18
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OK so now we know you are looking for a problem that gets worse with engine speed as opposed to resonance induced vibrations at specific rpms so prime suspects may well be the TT bearings, the bearing mounts, migration of the bearing assembly and possibly something in the clutch area? You said earlier that pressing the clutch pedal some reduced the issue so maybe that needs exploring. I cannot visualise how that would ease a problem caused by TT bearings but...?
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crushingday (04-23-2024)
#19
Burning Brakes
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OK so now we know you are looking for a problem that gets worse with engine speed as opposed to resonance induced vibrations at specific rpms so prime suspects may well be the TT bearings, the bearing mounts, migration of the bearing assembly and possibly something in the clutch area? You said earlier that pressing the clutch pedal some reduced the issue so maybe that needs exploring. I cannot visualise how that would ease a problem caused by TT bearings but...?
Mark says " You can run a coat hanger in either end to see how far back the carrier is. You could have a clutch issue like a missing arm bushing or the short shaft not in the pilot bearing.
#20
The symptoms sound like the front bearing has moved.
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crushingday (04-11-2024)
#21
Assuming the car is drivable, how about driving in 2nd up to 2500rpm or so on a flat road, then depress the clutch (remain in gear), and see what happens with the vibration. The driveshaft would still be spinning at ~2000rpm, driven by the rear tires.
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crushingday (04-23-2024)
#22
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Well, wouldn't one figure that if the vibration goes away upon pushing down the clutch pedal which subsequently causes the the shaft inside the bearings in the tube to no longer rotate. That make sense to me. And I apologize for the misunderstanding here. It's a matter of whether the clutch pedal is pushed down or not, it doesn't get better if the clutch is partially pushed in. If I push it in which causes the torque tube to come to a stop, the vibration stops.
Mark says " You can run a coat hanger in either end to see how far back the carrier is. You could have a clutch issue like a missing arm bushing or the short shaft not in the pilot bearing.
Mark says " You can run a coat hanger in either end to see how far back the carrier is. You could have a clutch issue like a missing arm bushing or the short shaft not in the pilot bearing.
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crushingday (04-15-2024)
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crushingday (04-15-2024)
#25
So it looks like the old bearing insert has come apart.
How far down is the front bearing from the front?
How far down is the front bearing from the front?
#27
That distance seems as if it has walked backward a bit and would be on the edge of having vibration problems starting during driving just by that occurence alone.
That movement probably helped to damage the bearing insert which caused all those vibrations you were experiencing underway at a much more pronounced level.
As Fred's post underscores, you now confirmed the problem and can get it fixed with a high degree of success!
Cheers.
That movement probably helped to damage the bearing insert which caused all those vibrations you were experiencing underway at a much more pronounced level.
As Fred's post underscores, you now confirmed the problem and can get it fixed with a high degree of success!
Cheers.
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crushingday (04-23-2024)
#28
Burning Brakes
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Here is a picture of the bearings. The plastic sleeve has failed in the bearings, most severely in the front bearing. The roller bearings themselves still seem to be smooth. it is just the this plastic sleeve that has disintegrated. I am not noting any cracks in my front clamp. But Can I take the front clamp to a machine shop and have it balanced to be sure. I am wondering if a slightly unbalanced clamp could cause a premature failure in the Black Sea R&D ( Constantine) bearings that I am installing now. I would hate to not fix what may have cause this issue while I am in there.
Last edited by crushingday; 04-23-2024 at 01:50 PM.
#29
Team Owner
Umm I dont think the Constantine clamp works on a 5 speed.
More than likely the clutch is out of balance,
the clamps are balanced at the factory.
I would have the I clutch package balanced first.
More than likely the clutch is out of balance,
the clamps are balanced at the factory.
I would have the I clutch package balanced first.
#30
Burning Brakes
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Oops! I miss spoke Stan I meant the Constantine bearings NOT the clamp. Oddly the same minor roughness that I am looking into to see if it was the reason for the bearing to fail vibration was present with my previous clutch as well. Admittedly that new clutch ob was only replacing the discs and resurfacing the fly wheel. I used the same clutch release guide tube and pressure plate.