DoubleAgent

After speaking earlier with Fabian myself, i agree with you guys, he seems like a good guy stuck in a bad situation. One could only hope the dealer would do right by the customer if there was a mistake made by the "Certified Porsche Master Mechanic". Personally i remember reading in my car manual not to leave the car idling for long durations. He speaks highly of the service manager there, So hopefully there is a possibility of a good outcome from this. He should find out more monday and I will help in whatever capacity i can.

For my own curiosity.
Is there an easy way to determine if the rings have damaged the cylinder walls aside from teardown? If they are is it possible to sleeve those cylinders as opposed to getting a new engine or bottom end? I recall reading that honing is bad for these blocks as it removes a special coating.It would be a shame to have to throw away that young of an engine.

He told me that the cat had been removed and has been upgraded to 3" exhaust. i need to do this on my car.

danglerb

Cylinder leak down test?

danglerb

Very good chance, in my mind anyway, that the conditions that lead to a motor only having 10k (sitting without driving) make it a worse choice than higher mileage regularly driven motor with good compression etc.

Imo000

Not at only 10K. The seals might get dry but the engine itself will be like new.

Hilton

Surely if the dealership screwed up, they should be held accountable?

First step I'd make would be to phone Porsche's USA hq and lodge a complaint, both about the oil separation diagnosis offered up, and the suspected cause.

I'd also ask them to verify that the master mechanic in question has indeed been trained in the 928 - you're going to need a 928-experienced specialist to resolve this. I've actually been referred by my local Porsche center here in Sydney to a 928-specialist independent workshop when I had questions they couldn't answer.

Fabianrou

Thanks Greg for the welcoming and your words. I'm counting the hours to go to the dealer on Monday and see what story they'll give me. It brakes my heart to see my 10k engine go to waste because of some beligerant mechanic that just didn't put any love into the work. That being said, when I go there on Monday I know that they'll try to unlock the hydrolock and send me on my way.

Fabianrou

Greate idea about calling PORSCHE USA. I'll wait to see what they do on Monday.

Fabianrou

I did turn it every month or so by hand to keep things moving when it was sitting.

Fabianrou

I'm very impressed with the way everybody has ben trying to help. I really appreciate that. This is my daily driver and the best car I have ever had in the last 16 hears. Thank you so much!

Mrmerlin

a quick way to figure out the blown head gasket is to look at the coolant bottle, if you knew where the level was B4 all of this happened then if a blown gasket the bottle would be low.
The billowing clouds sounds like you had a blown gasket B4 you went to the dealer the first time..
If the engine had a cylinder fill up with some coolant then was turned over this quite possibly would have damaged a piston and or a connecting rod.
The suggestion to replace the already replaced engine sounds like the best course.
Also probably the least expensive.
That said if your doing the take it to the mechanic then i would find another one thats versed in the 928.
OTOH if you know your way around a tool box then time to pull the engine and swap it yourself, I am sure you could have some assistance from the Fla crew

Fabianrou

I honestly didn't see the coolant level before but I do know that it didn't leak anywhere before so it should be pretty full. Actually I had no smoke at all since that engine had been running which is 3 months, that's not why I took it in. After you drove it for a little and went back to start it it would run on 6 or 7 cylinders. That was probably a sign of the real trouble to come. Those two injectors were already starting to wash the cylinders and that's why that cylinder would shut off I'm assuming. It had a rough start in the morning and they replaced the cold start valve and both fuel regulators. Bottom line is they mis-diagnose the problem trying to tell me that I had an oil separation problem and that this was causing the gobs of smoke. It was only after I took it to the dealer that this happened. They openly admitted to me that they had the car idling for hours and I think that this is where it all originates. They overheated the engine blew the gasket and sent me on my way. Maybe I also had injectors 6 and 7 on the gushing mode as well. That would be double trouble. In either or both case they release the car to me twice and it had the same problem. So I'm really thinking they owe me an engine.

Fabianrou

The engine was sitting for about 6 almost 7 years out of the car. I would turn by hand every once in a while. It had no coolant in it. It was running great minus the cold start problem. They replaced the cold start valve and went on to create this mess. If they felt they couldn't diagnose the car properly they should have referred me to someone - as I've heard other dealers have done-, instead they played I guessing game trying to tell me that I had an oil separation problem and that this is where the huge smoke screen was coming from. They just didn't put any love into it.

Mrmerlin

its quite possible that the head gasket failed due to non use, once it was wetted by any liquid it would only be a matter of time B4 the corrosion process took over.
That said, try to find another engine thats had the headgaskets replaced and is in running condition and drop it in

Tampa 928s

P.M. me with your number!

Fabianrou

Thanks for the tips ;-)