Remove Upper Bellhousing Bolts?

kaptnknemo · 10-16-2009, 09:41 PM

How? I can barely get a 12 pt 19mm wrench on them and I can't get no satisfaction. Already soaked them in PB Blaster, but they aint budjing.

TIA KK

SeanR · 10-16-2009, 09:46 PM

A really long 19 is what I use. Not much room in there.

GlenL · 10-16-2009, 09:47 PM

You need a flexible-head ratchet, a 19mm six-point socket and 3 feet of cheater bar.

Mrmerlin · 10-16-2009, 09:59 PM

Sears has flex head gear wrenches that you can lock in a bent position this is a great tool to get the bolts loose, you can use a 19mm wrench on the other end if you need more leverage

Lizard931 · 10-16-2009, 10:22 PM

I use a regular 19mm wrench and then snipe it with another 19mm wrench. I never have issues breaking them free. Once the first turn or two has been done they always come out with my fingers.

blown 87 · 10-16-2009, 11:32 PM

What ever you do make sure the wrench is held on there good, if it slips and rounds the head off, you got a problem.

I have a guy use a long bar hold the wrench on so it can not come off at a angle.

Big Dave · 10-16-2009, 11:56 PM

I wasn't able to get them off when I did my engine rebuild. I pulled the engine out with the bellhousing still attached.

Shark_Week · 10-17-2009, 12:46 AM

Having recently needing to remove these, i feel for you. i tried everything mentioned here. what ended up working was taking a torch and heating my box wrench and bending the wrench exactly where i wanted. it took a couple tries but it's perfect now and i'll have it for next time.

kaptnknemo · 10-17-2009, 04:33 AM

thanks, looks like i'm of to k-mart, opps sears as soon as they open, I have a 19mm from them with the right angle, i think i'll get another and rotozip the open end off so my torque intensifier will fit over it.

KK

Mike Frye · 10-17-2009, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lizard931

I use a regular 19mm wrench and then snipe it with another 19mm wrench. I never have issues breaking them free. Once the first turn or two has been done they always come out with my fingers.

That's the ticket. For those of you following along at home: (I've never heard this term before either) I assume 'sniping it' means to use the open end of the one on the bolt with the box end of another wrench of a similar size. Those bolts are a b!tch. After you break them free, a 19mm gear wrench will do the trick.

I think Bill Ball had a write-up about this from when he did the rear main seal. I'd do a search on that.

Mrmerlin · 10-17-2009, 09:12 AM

Just googled this.

GearWrench 19MM XL Locking Flex Combination Ratcheting Wrench
( 0 Reviews ) | Sold by Sears Item# 00993141000 Model# EHT85619
$32.99

RyanPerrella · 10-17-2009, 09:43 AM

here is a cool one for you, try and follow me here

step 1 ) Ok 19mm combo wrench on the bolt with the box end (fully round) on the bolt and the open end now in the air

step 2) now 19mm is very close to 3/4" so now take a 3/4" breaker bar and use the square portion which you would usually plug a socket onto and insert that into the open end of the 19mm combo wrench. This is a tight enough fit that you can use allot of torgue on the long 3/4" breaker bar and it will go through the wrench and pop that bolt free.

Install isnt as difficult, the standard length 19mm wrench should allow you to get the recommended torque on the bolt when you tighten

I wish i had a picture of this little trick

Mike Frye · 10-17-2009, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanPerrella

here is a cool one for you, try and follow me here

step 1 ) Ok 19mm combo wrench on the bolt with the box end (fully round) on the bolt and the open end now in the air

step 2) now 19mm is very close to 3/4" so now take a 3/4" breaker bar and use the square portion which you would usually plug a socket onto and insert that into the open end of the 19mm combo wrench. This is a tight enough fit that you can use allot of torgue on the long 3/4" breaker bar and it will go through the wrench and pop that bolt free.

Install isnt as difficult, the standard length 19mm wrench should allow you to get the recommended torque on the bolt when you tighten

I wish i had a picture of this little trick

kaptnknemo · 10-17-2009, 02:48 PM

After an unfortunate incident involing a roto-zip, the cut off end of a $10.99 19mm craftmans wrench fit nicely into a 1" water pipe 2ft long. Passenger side was a piece of cake, on the drivers side I had to remove the FPR. It only took 1/10 of a turn to lossen them up.

Thanks for the help!

KK

Schocki · 10-17-2009, 04:25 PM

That's what I used

10-16-2009, 09:41 PM	#1
kaptnknemo Bumbling Neophyte Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tally, FL Posts: 214	Remove Upper Bellhousing Bolts? How? I can barely get a 12 pt 19mm wrench on them and I can't get no satisfaction. Already soaked them in PB Blaster, but they aint budjing. TIA KK __________________ KaptnKnemo 1986 928S (vin 0268) The Black Pearl Black/Black AV 300+HP!

10-16-2009, 09:46 PM	#2
SeanR Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denton Texas Posts: 7,836	A really long 19 is what I use. Not much room in there. __________________ http://www.928srus.com/ Anotherplace -------------------------- '88 S4 •• Law of Mechanical Repair - After your hands become coated with grease, your nose will begin to itch and you'll have to pee.

10-16-2009, 09:59 PM	#4
Mrmerlin Petie3rd Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aurora Colorado Posts: 7,614	Sears has flex head gear wrenches that you can lock in a bent position this is a great tool to get the bolts loose, you can use a 19mm wrench on the other end if you need more leverage __________________ 1988 S4 Elfenbein Perlglanz with a full Pearl Gray leather interior, Auto

10-16-2009, 10:22 PM	#5
Lizard931 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Abbotsford B.C. Posts: 4,905	I use a regular 19mm wrench and then snipe it with another 19mm wrench. I never have issues breaking them free. Once the first turn or two has been done they always come out with my fingers. __________________ Colin J JDS Porsche Western Canada Supplier. Don't steal, the government hates competition! 1981 928S Euro, S4 bumper caps, 86 engine, currently undergoing MASSIVE changes. 1987 928S4 Auto 1987 928S4 5 speed They ALL have the porkensioner!

10-16-2009, 11:56 PM	#7
Big Dave 928 Engine Re-Re-Rebuild Specialist Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Milwaukee Posts: 7,013	I wasn't able to get them off when I did my engine rebuild. I pulled the engine out with the bellhousing still attached. __________________ 1985 928S Auto Black/Black, Chipped, Ott X-over - reborn twice! 1983 911 SC Cabriolet - SOLD 2005 Acura TL My 928 Home Page 928 Owners Club - Michigan Chapter

10-16-2009, 09:47 PM	#3
GlenL Super User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 3,839	You need a flexible-head ratchet, a 19mm six-point socket and 3 feet of cheater bar.

10-16-2009, 11:32 PM	#6
blown 87 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bird lover in Sharpsburg Georgia Posts: 3,752	What ever you do make sure the wrench is held on there good, if it slips and rounds the head off, you got a problem. I have a guy use a long bar hold the wrench on so it can not come off at a angle.

10-17-2009, 12:46 AM	#8
Shark_Week Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SD, Ca. Posts: 89	Having recently needing to remove these, i feel for you. i tried everything mentioned here. what ended up working was taking a torch and heating my box wrench and bending the wrench exactly where i wanted. it took a couple tries but it's perfect now and i'll have it for next time. __________________ Martin G. 1993 928 GTS- 5 speed Black on Black

10-17-2009, 04:33 AM	#9
kaptnknemo Bumbling Neophyte Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tally, FL Posts: 214	thanks, looks like i'm of to k-mart, opps sears as soon as they open, I have a 19mm from them with the right angle, i think i'll get another and rotozip the open end off so my torque intensifier will fit over it. KK __________________ KaptnKnemo 1986 928S (vin 0268) The Black Pearl Black/Black AV 300+HP!

10-17-2009, 09:12 AM	#11
Mrmerlin Petie3rd Rennlist Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aurora Colorado Posts: 7,614	Just googled this. GearWrench 19MM XL Locking Flex Combination Ratcheting Wrench ( 0 Reviews ) \| Sold by Sears Item# 00993141000 Model# EHT85619 $32.99 __________________ 1988 S4 Elfenbein Perlglanz with a full Pearl Gray leather interior, Auto

10-17-2009, 09:43 AM	#12
RyanPerrella Super User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 8,421	here is a cool one for you, try and follow me here step 1 ) Ok 19mm combo wrench on the bolt with the box end (fully round) on the bolt and the open end now in the air step 2) now 19mm is very close to 3/4" so now take a 3/4" breaker bar and use the square portion which you would usually plug a socket onto and insert that into the open end of the 19mm combo wrench. This is a tight enough fit that you can use allot of torgue on the long 3/4" breaker bar and it will go through the wrench and pop that bolt free. Install isnt as difficult, the standard length 19mm wrench should allow you to get the recommended torque on the bolt when you tighten I wish i had a picture of this little trick

10-17-2009, 02:48 PM	#14
kaptnknemo Bumbling Neophyte Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tally, FL Posts: 214	Problem solved! After an unfortunate incident involing a roto-zip, the cut off end of a $10.99 19mm craftmans wrench fit nicely into a 1" water pipe 2ft long. Passenger side was a piece of cake, on the drivers side I had to remove the FPR. It only took 1/10 of a turn to lossen them up. Thanks for the help! KK __________________ KaptnKnemo 1986 928S (vin 0268) The Black Pearl Black/Black AV 300+HP!