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Factory Cup I's (993 p/n/17") or Factory 17" Twists (996 p/n)?

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Old 02-07-2010, 05:46 PM
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Default Factory Cup I's (993 p/n/17") or Factory 17" Twists (996 p/n)?

Yes, another wheel thread.

I picked up a nice set of 996 Twists today for a good price and I already have Cup 1's for my black 1980 project.

Which style do you like more on an early bodied 928? TIA.
Old 02-07-2010, 06:52 PM
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Hard to say...they are both quite nice for an early 928. Had both at one point or another.

I think the twist are more modern looking, but just by a fraction. Only downer to the twists are the look different from the left side of the car to the right.

Cup I's are traditional 5-spokes... can't go wrong.

Are both sets OE Porsche? If so, I would go with the lightest set.
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Originally Posted by Jadz928
Hard to say...they are both quite nice for an early 928. Had both at one point or another.

I think the twist are more modern looking, but just by a fraction. Only downer to the twists are the look different from the left side of the car to the right.

Cup I's are traditional 5-spokes... can't go wrong.

Are both sets OE Porsche? If so, I would go with the lightest set.
Both say made in Italy, but have Porsche part numbers and the offset around the valve stem hole. I originally thought made in Italy meant non-Porsche, but from the limited reading I have done now say this is not so. So, as far as I know, they are both factory. I will have to check weights. That is a good plan. Thanks for that suggestion.
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According to this chart (http://www.superhonda.com/tech/wheel_weights.html), Cup 1's weigh 18 and 19.5 (7.5/9inch respectively) and the twists are 19.1 and 22.3 (7/9 inch respectively). All things being equal, me thinkst I will go with the lighter wheels. Thanks for suggesting relative weights Jim!
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can you show pictures?
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Here are the Cups on the 1978. I can post a pic of the back of the wheels next weekend (at w/e house). I can post a picture of the twists after the Super Bowl. Maybe someone can verify my factory/replica confusion.
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Michael-

Here's the inside of a factory Cup I rim, with the part #, SL-600, made in Italy, etc. They have the offset stamped by the valve stem.

Do your rims have RDK sensors? I'm pretty sure all the 928-specific Cup1's would, 'cause they're '93 and early '94 only. Part #'s should be 965.362.164.05 (front) and 965.362.168.00 (rear)




Never looked closely at a set of the Mille Miglia replicas but their overall spoke shape is different (less 'sculpted') and no offset info cast into the outer rim.

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Porsche has had wheels made in Italy...not sure why someone said that they didn't...but I saw that too and thought it was incorrect as well since I have also had factory wheels with the same printing on them.

I prefer the Cup I's. When the twists came out I liked them better, but I don't think have have worn as well...design wise at the Cup I or II wheels...
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Are both sets the same front offset?
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
Michael-

Here's the inside of a factory Cup I rim, with the part #, SL-600, made in Italy, etc. They have the offset stamped by the valve stem.

Do your rims have RDK sensors? I'm pretty sure all the 928-specific Cup1's would, 'cause they're '93 and early '94 only. Part #'s should be 965.362.164.05 (front) and 965.362.168.00 (rear)




Never looked closely at a set of the Mille Miglia replicas but their overall spoke shape is different (less 'sculpted') and no offset info cast into the outer rim.

Thanks for the photo Rob. I will compare it to the rims I have and check for RDK sensors.

Originally Posted by pcar928fan
Porsche has had wheels made in Italy...not sure why someone said that they didn't...but I saw that too and thought it was incorrect as well since I have also had factory wheels with the same printing on them.

I prefer the Cup I's. When the twists came out I liked them better, but I don't think have have worn as well...design wise at the Cup I or II wheels...
Thanks James. It was probably me (more than once) that stated made in Italy = non-factory. Thanks for clarifying and your thoughts on the two rims.

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Are both sets the same front offset?
The front offset of the Twists are 55 (as are the rears). I will have to check the Cup offsets on Thursday.
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I like the Cup I's over the Twists. The Cup II's over both
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Originally Posted by S4ordie
The Cup II's over both
Me too. The car came with the Cup 1's and I got a really good deal on the Twists. Since I am always trading stuff, I never pass up deals on wheels. When I saw Jwise's Cup II's a few weeks back, I told him I would buy them if he did not want them. At any rate, they are all better than a stick in the eye (or manhole covers).
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Guys - for OEM wheel weights, offsets, and part numbers, this is my favorite site:

http://www.944racing.de/reload.php?u...elweights.html

Recall that 1 kilogram = 2.2 lbs.

Oh, and I voted Cup I's.
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Like the pictures with that site. Here is another good one that has some comparable aftermarket wheels for P-Cars: http://members.rennlist.com/911pcars/WheelWts.html Astounding weight diffs between factory and replicas.
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Here are a few shots of the 7 inch front Twist wheel. Sorry for the less-than-crisp photos. You can barely make out the 996 part number on the left/back photo and see "made" in the right back photo (towards bottom). They do say in Italy BTW. Again, I will compare the my Cup wheels to Rob's photo and take some shots and post following next weekend.
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