Jack Stand Alternative?
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Being a belt-and-suspenders type of guy I always try to take it a step further and use two additional jack stands (in addition to the first four) AND leave the jack at the other end just barely touching but ready to take weight. Also, two of the four have the base at a 45* angle to the car to prevent lateral tipping.
Finally, once all is in place I test the lift by (gently) pushing the car in both directions to assure myself that it's on solid footings. Some may disagree with testing but it gives you a very secure feeling about how the lift has set. If you can't move it by trying then it very probably isn't going anywhere if it's bumped. I'd still do this on any lifting mechanism.
Finally, once all is in place I test the lift by (gently) pushing the car in both directions to assure myself that it's on solid footings. Some may disagree with testing but it gives you a very secure feeling about how the lift has set. If you can't move it by trying then it very probably isn't going anywhere if it's bumped. I'd still do this on any lifting mechanism.
#18
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I think this set-up may make it dificult to remove the torque tube. it also seems to consume a lot of room under the car where you may want access to stuff. would be great for wheel well work and probably OK for MM/OP work. doesn't look like it will extent out to the jack points though so not sure what part of the car will be supporting the weight. one nice thing though is that with close to 50/50 weight bias it should be plenty stable.
#19
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I'm pretty sure a car properly set on 4 well built stands is going to be awfully hard to knock off.
I’ve tried pushing hard and giving a it few hip checks and it doesn’t budge.
Then I either take the wheels off and store them under the or leave a jack in the up position just short of carrying weight.
I’ve tried pushing hard and giving a it few hip checks and it doesn’t budge.
Then I either take the wheels off and store them under the or leave a jack in the up position just short of carrying weight.
#20
If you use ramps on the front end, then the tires, though lifted vertically, are still in contact with the ground and provide lateral stability against any accidental bumping.
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I'm with you on hating jack stands. I use these as shown in the pic. Not my image -- I lifted it from the web page that describes how to make them. Cost me less than $100 in wood and screws.
Dave
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Thanks all for the feedback / suggestions. Obviously a lift is the preferred option (jealous of the sweet lift Rixter !!!), but that will need to wait a while. In the meantime, my preference is obviously for something a bit a bit wider, and with fewer moving parts, but if I can't have that then Dr. Bob, your recs for some jack stands with additional supporting blocks may be put to good use.
Always appreciated,
Dave
Always appreciated,
Dave
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... I bought a mid rise (54" I think) for all told about $1k. Mine has 4 adjustable arms, and a riser pad on the end of the arm, so there is some amount of clearance even on the middle of the car directly over the mechanism. I wouldn't drive over it with the arms on, but off its no issue, and they come off pretty easy. ...
#25
Those timber stands gave me an idea.... So we knocked these up out of some scrap at my mate's workshop.
Approx 400mmx400mm base and gives 300mm lift under the tyres.
Put some angle iron on the front stands to stop the car moving as well as the hand brake.
Super stable and has given me plenty of room to work underneath the car.
Best of all, they only cost me a bacon, egg and cheese toasted sandwich and an Iced Coffee.
Approx 400mmx400mm base and gives 300mm lift under the tyres.
Put some angle iron on the front stands to stop the car moving as well as the hand brake.
Super stable and has given me plenty of room to work underneath the car.
Best of all, they only cost me a bacon, egg and cheese toasted sandwich and an Iced Coffee.
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Hmm. I don't trust that design. I prefer wood for these types of lift systems.
#28
Jack stands are very stable when properly used. I always get the car up on them, check everything and give the car a good hip check before trusting anything. With the stands right, it won't budge. Then I put the wheels under the car for an added measure. Not living in earthquake country, I guess I don't worry as much as you left coasters. I've been thinking about one of those scissor lifts since my garage is way too low for the two-post I really want.