Illuminated Window Switch Project ** MAILING AND GUIDE UPDATE **
#391
Rennlist Member
This board makes my life a lot easier, especially when dealing with unusual custom button layouts. All inputs and outputs can be re-arranged by replacing the shunts with short jumpers. If you go back a couple pages, there is a pretty thorough explaination on what this board is and why it exists. I will post some pictures and examples tomorrow of the board I assembled tonight.
Existing customers will likely not benefit from the board. Going forward, it will be both a replacement for the DEI 529T and also offer stand-alone operation for people looking for an affordable alternative to the stock switches.
Thanks
Hans
Existing customers will likely not benefit from the board. Going forward, it will be both a replacement for the DEI 529T and also offer stand-alone operation for people looking for an affordable alternative to the stock switches.
Thanks
Hans
#392
Rennlist Member
As promised, here are a couple pics of the assembled unit, and a quick pictorial of quick "customizing."
First pic is of the assembled unit with the harnesses.
Second pic shows a close up of the assembled board.
Third pic shows the dip switches for the express function (in this case set to include the driver and sunroof together on one button).
Fourth pic shows a closeup of the jumper block in a normal configuration
Fifth pic shows one shunt removed (in this case, it will decouple the LED illumination from the switched +12v provided by the factory window harness, allowing a different source of voltage for the illumination on the dedicated input terminal).
Sixth picture shows two buttons on the switch pad configured for the express operation. These are just jumper wires I had handy, procuction jumpers will be 3" long and much tidier, but you get the idea. It would allow for someone to order the driver window down button in the location that sunroof open is normally, and all I would need to do is install the jumper, instead of make notes for constructing a custom harness.
The dipswitches also lets people make changes to the express function on the fly, either including or excluding a sunroof or window in the operation. Since there are six seperate switches, it also allow for an assymetrical operation, such as including the sunroof in the close mode, but not the open mode.
One-touch functionality still does require the use of a 530t. The 530t will just connect to the blade terminals on the edge of the boards. One 530t is required for both windows. If sunroof one-touch is desired, a second 530t is required (one channel will just remain dormant).
Because of the use of the standard 0.25" terminals, a customer can buy the standard kit (with or without the plug and play harness) and easily make changes to say add the one-touch function a year down the road. It is now very simple for the user to do this, as all they would need to install the DEI module is a crimper and 0.25" blade terminals.
Additionally, if for any reason the DEI module would fail, it can be removed, and the new board will be able to actuate the windows as normal with standard operation.
Thanks
Hans
First pic is of the assembled unit with the harnesses.
Second pic shows a close up of the assembled board.
Third pic shows the dip switches for the express function (in this case set to include the driver and sunroof together on one button).
Fourth pic shows a closeup of the jumper block in a normal configuration
Fifth pic shows one shunt removed (in this case, it will decouple the LED illumination from the switched +12v provided by the factory window harness, allowing a different source of voltage for the illumination on the dedicated input terminal).
Sixth picture shows two buttons on the switch pad configured for the express operation. These are just jumper wires I had handy, procuction jumpers will be 3" long and much tidier, but you get the idea. It would allow for someone to order the driver window down button in the location that sunroof open is normally, and all I would need to do is install the jumper, instead of make notes for constructing a custom harness.
The dipswitches also lets people make changes to the express function on the fly, either including or excluding a sunroof or window in the operation. Since there are six seperate switches, it also allow for an assymetrical operation, such as including the sunroof in the close mode, but not the open mode.
One-touch functionality still does require the use of a 530t. The 530t will just connect to the blade terminals on the edge of the boards. One 530t is required for both windows. If sunroof one-touch is desired, a second 530t is required (one channel will just remain dormant).
Because of the use of the standard 0.25" terminals, a customer can buy the standard kit (with or without the plug and play harness) and easily make changes to say add the one-touch function a year down the road. It is now very simple for the user to do this, as all they would need to install the DEI module is a crimper and 0.25" blade terminals.
Additionally, if for any reason the DEI module would fail, it can be removed, and the new board will be able to actuate the windows as normal with standard operation.
Thanks
Hans
#394
Rennlist Member
Me too!
Hans gave me a great technical description about how the switchs work, and somewhat about how they feel. THEN, I checked it out in Shawn car. I'm sold!
Now I just have to figure out whether to wait for the new design or go with the DEI design.
Hans gave me a great technical description about how the switchs work, and somewhat about how they feel. THEN, I checked it out in Shawn car. I'm sold!
Now I just have to figure out whether to wait for the new design or go with the DEI design.
#396
Rennlist Member
We will refresh the thread, product page, and pricing reflecting the new control board this week.
As mentioned earlier, the overall cost of the kit will go up, but it is offset by not needing the 529t for sunroof operation, so any net increase in price for a system will be nominal.
Thanks
Hans
As mentioned earlier, the overall cost of the kit will go up, but it is offset by not needing the 529t for sunroof operation, so any net increase in price for a system will be nominal.
Thanks
Hans
#397
Rennlist Member
We will refresh the thread, product page, and pricing reflecting the new control board this week.
As mentioned earlier, the overall cost of the kit will go up, but it is offset by not needing the 529t for sunroof operation, so any net increase in price for a system will be nominal.
Thanks
Hans
As mentioned earlier, the overall cost of the kit will go up, but it is offset by not needing the 529t for sunroof operation, so any net increase in price for a system will be nominal.
Thanks
Hans
Awesome.
My finger is on the 'buy' button for this, the moment you update the Nfo.
#398
Former Vendor
Thread Starter
The choices and options for the icons and finishes, do remain the same. So, for anyone interested, you can drop me an email at champagn@stx.rr.com and I will respond with the form where you can see and choose your options.
Thanks
Paul
Thanks
Paul
#399
Drifting
Wow it only took me 10 months to get to it
So ILL bump this thread as I need to ask Paul about the 611 connections.
So today I got energetic and started to figure out how my custom Paul/Hans window switches would install.
It took a few hours to read up on all the updates.
Took some per assembly photos of the switch test fit and the harness.
Paul/Hans dose the 611 Valet connect to the windows or alarm?
I left it up to Paul I think to send everything but I do not know how I am to use the 611.
Thanks Paul, the switches are great.
Brad
So ILL bump this thread as I need to ask Paul about the 611 connections.
So today I got energetic and started to figure out how my custom Paul/Hans window switches would install.
It took a few hours to read up on all the updates.
Took some per assembly photos of the switch test fit and the harness.
Paul/Hans dose the 611 Valet connect to the windows or alarm?
I left it up to Paul I think to send everything but I do not know how I am to use the 611.
Thanks Paul, the switches are great.
Brad
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One of my favorite things I've done to the car and if someone doesn't know 928's they will never know this piece wasn't from the factory.
I mean that in the highest compliment to an aftermarket part.
I mean that in the highest compliment to an aftermarket part.
#403
Rennlist Member
Brad,
Hard to believe it has been that long. Its been a while since I have seen the original setup.
First, you may want to reference the page we setup for this version, here is the direct link:
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/S...tionElec89.htm
Skip towards the bottom for the plug-and-play harness install (although the rest of the manual can assist in explaining how the system works if you are interested).
You will notice on your harness there is a spare green unterminated wire. This is the spare "Bonus button" output which you will use to trigger your 611t. Conveniently, this connects to the green wire of the 611t harness. The Black wire on the 611t is connected to ground, the Red to +12v.
The remaining Brown and Yellow wires of the 611t are used to activate whatever circuit it is you want to control. They are polarized (this is described well in the DEI manual) so note if you need a positive output, or a short-to-ground, and use the corresponding wires.
I can help you with that wiring if you provide more information on what you plan on controlling with the 611.
Feel free to PM or Email me for more assistance.
Thanks
Hans
Hard to believe it has been that long. Its been a while since I have seen the original setup.
First, you may want to reference the page we setup for this version, here is the direct link:
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/S...tionElec89.htm
Skip towards the bottom for the plug-and-play harness install (although the rest of the manual can assist in explaining how the system works if you are interested).
You will notice on your harness there is a spare green unterminated wire. This is the spare "Bonus button" output which you will use to trigger your 611t. Conveniently, this connects to the green wire of the 611t harness. The Black wire on the 611t is connected to ground, the Red to +12v.
The remaining Brown and Yellow wires of the 611t are used to activate whatever circuit it is you want to control. They are polarized (this is described well in the DEI manual) so note if you need a positive output, or a short-to-ground, and use the corresponding wires.
I can help you with that wiring if you provide more information on what you plan on controlling with the 611.
Feel free to PM or Email me for more assistance.
Thanks
Hans
#404
928 Collector
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Thanks Brad, yours looks great .... you'll have to share with me, I'd love to lose the fugly distros.
#405
Drifting
Brad,
Hard to believe it has been that long. Its been a while since I have seen the original setup.
First, you may want to reference the page we setup for this version, here is the direct link:
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/S...tionElec89.htm
Skip towards the bottom for the plug-and-play harness install (although the rest of the manual can assist in explaining how the system works if you are interested).
You will notice on your harness there is a spare green unterminated wire. This is the spare "Bonus button" output which you will use to trigger your 611t. Conveniently, this connects to the green wire of the 611t harness. The Black wire on the 611t is connected to ground, the Red to +12v.
The remaining Brown and Yellow wires of the 611t are used to activate whatever circuit it is you want to control. They are polarized (this is described well in the DEI manual) so note if you need a positive output, or a short-to-ground, and use the corresponding wires.
I can help you with that wiring if you provide more information on what you plan on controlling with the 611.
Feel free to PM or Email me for more assistance.
Thanks
Hans
Hard to believe it has been that long. Its been a while since I have seen the original setup.
First, you may want to reference the page we setup for this version, here is the direct link:
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/S...tionElec89.htm
Skip towards the bottom for the plug-and-play harness install (although the rest of the manual can assist in explaining how the system works if you are interested).
You will notice on your harness there is a spare green unterminated wire. This is the spare "Bonus button" output which you will use to trigger your 611t. Conveniently, this connects to the green wire of the 611t harness. The Black wire on the 611t is connected to ground, the Red to +12v.
The remaining Brown and Yellow wires of the 611t are used to activate whatever circuit it is you want to control. They are polarized (this is described well in the DEI manual) so note if you need a positive output, or a short-to-ground, and use the corresponding wires.
I can help you with that wiring if you provide more information on what you plan on controlling with the 611.
Feel free to PM or Email me for more assistance.
Thanks
Hans