ledee416

Does anyone have a ballpark figure? Obviously a precise number would be better, and I am sure there is a way to get it.

I was told by an individual who is rebuilding my MAF, that since the federalization process was tedious and expensive, that there really are not that many Euros around.

on an off topic... did you know that the nada blue book value of a 1980 porsche 928 is over 8k? wtf?

Green Goblin

Put me down for an 83 Euro

i guess thats 1 LOL

Vilhuer

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...nd-canada.html

STRIKEMASTER

Last July I picked up an '83EURO-S for $3.5k!! Vin#WPOZZZ92ZDS841138. Yes it needs work,(the PO was an IDIOT) ,BUT, It's a real head turner. I had it out on the Friday after Thanksgiving, and a guy driving a 63 AC Cobra (not a kit car, a REAL AC) followed me into a Pep Boys parking lot to check it out. It was the typical "I'll show you mine if you show me yours". He had an really nice looking 283 in his, but when I popped my hood, all he could say was "OH MY GAWD!" The only problem is that EVERYONE wants to run me. I even got challenged by a guy in a Currier-Post delivery van!! I think only 209 came into the country in '83 and mine is a 5-speed! I don't know how many have "survived", But add mine to the list.

danglerb

Link refers to the carfax search of vins, and shows 1300 Euro's, but doesn't include 78, 79, and 80 model years, and those are as common as any of the early years. Carfax doesn't go back past I think some point in the 90's so a car could have been imported and wrecked or parked unregistered prior to the reporting range.

Fabio421

Put me down for a twin dizzy LH equipped 1985 Euro S with 5 speed and no sunroof.

I also have a 78 euro 5 speed w/o sunroof. Obviously not an "S".

Jetdriver69

I gray marketed a 78 5 speed from Germany in 1987 while stationed in Bavaria. I'm pretty sure its still around somewhere unless the USAF pilot who bought it from me wrecked it....

SMTCapeCod

fAnecdotally from watching the market for a while, sure seems like there were a bunch of '83 brought in, fewer thereafter. Maybe the economy or a change in emissions regs tamped down on the practice in 84, 85, 86.

tv

LH Euro S model 1984 -1986 in USA
84-- 270
85-- 315
86-- 42

Keep in mind that many 84's have carry-over pistons and an awful lot of changes occurred for MY 85. Also most 86 Euro's have been the 32 Valve versions. Probably a 50% casualty rate leaves around 300 on the road. Rare birds. Did we see an 86 16V recently?

BRB-83-911SC

The exchange rate in the early to mid 80's made it financially reasonable to grey market import a German car. This, coupled with the Euro to US performace differential of the 4.7L S cars made it a sweet deal. This also seems to be the heyday for grey market BMW's and Merc's.

For point of reference, my 84 Euro 5-speed, well optioned, was purchased by the original owner on 3/15/84 from the importer for $43,500 USD. I would be interested to know what a similar 84 US spec car stickered for at that time.

Jetdriver69

I totally agree with the exchange rate. I was there when the mark was 3.45 to the $! it was cheaper to go out to eat on the German economy than it was to buy food at the military commissary and cook it. I got my 78 very cheap when you consider the exchange rate. But you had to pay for DOT changes, EPA waiver letter and shipping. Plus engine rebuild parts, clutch, brakes, paint, etc, etc, etc. But I bought all the parts at German Porsche dealers and shipped them home, so a better deal again. It was fun trying to translate piston rings or gasket set in German to the Porsche mechanic. I sold it getting back every penny I put in the car. Guess I got lucky on that account!

James Bailey

Also when the USA 85/86 finally had nearly 300 HP the Euro cars did not have much more power add in the model change over to the S-4 in late 1986 and importing an "old" style 928 was less attractive... Numerous problems with the certification labs( faking results, going out of business, getting shut down) and high costs were factors as well.

ledee416

mine is an 84. I was just curious because of what the MAF guy told me. So they are pretty rare then, but not super rare.

tv

The largest year for the grey market was 1985, also the best Euro. (Hensler)

The reason for a grey market ended in late summer 86 not only because the of the currency but starting with MY 87 there was no more Euro, all engines were the same.

Dutch 928 fan

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because my euro 84 was a grey import to the USA and then imported back to Europe.