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When I restored my BMW 2002 the BMW Tradition program was comforting if not especially helpful. Right when the 02 prices started to climb BMW decided to support its classic models and even built a brand new 02 from their parts bin. There are no longer a lot of NLA 02 parts. This kind of support is essential to the successful appreciation of classics.
Here's hoping that classic Porsches follow the same path. It is a little disconcerting that Porsche did not include a 928 in the lineup for the press release photo, but chose instead to illustrate as classic a 944 and Boxster next to the omnipresent 911.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/11/28/p...work-official/
Here's hoping that classic Porsches follow the same path. It is a little disconcerting that Porsche did not include a 928 in the lineup for the press release photo, but chose instead to illustrate as classic a 944 and Boxster next to the omnipresent 911.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/11/28/p...work-official/
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Porsche is in the process of opening a new network of service centers specifically focused on its classic cars. By 2018, the German automaker aims to have 100 such locations up and running around the world. What you're looking at here is the first.
This will be neat. I wonder when they will announce the other locations?
This will be neat. I wonder when they will announce the other locations?
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Ok..best guesses on labor rates and parts markup?
I dont like that I dont have a "Sean Ratts" out here..have to wonder how well this could work, compared to random "find a shop" alternatives.
I dont like that I dont have a "Sean Ratts" out here..have to wonder how well this could work, compared to random "find a shop" alternatives.
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The best of this news is that indicates a greater dedication by Porsche to making parts for these classic cars available. That will be a boon to all 928 mechanics, whether DIY or professional 928. Hopefully, it will help spur investment in after-market parts for these cars.
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Exactly correct DK, but I would add the hope that it will spur investment in the cars too. We are lucky to have the vendors that specialize in 928s now. Once Porsche supports discontinued models we should see a lot more interest in them from enthusiasts and collectors.
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Given how poorly Porsche dealerships - on average - have performed on 928s over the years I'm on this until I see one that's been 'done' by a Porsche Classic Center.
Also, figure a 'full workup' for your 928 will cost at least $150k. But, it will be new when they're done.
Also, figure a 'full workup' for your 928 will cost at least $150k. But, it will be new when they're done.
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Just go look at the old parts prices from Porsche and add in the adjustment to retool and remake them PLUS inflation !! Remember a new GTS engine WAS about $35,000 transmission $15 K . Door shell $3,500.
New restoration from Porsche has to be way north of $150,000 for a 928 if they ever actually do one !
New restoration from Porsche has to be way north of $150,000 for a 928 if they ever actually do one !
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I wouldn't expect labor rates to be much different than other specialized shops in the given area. Parts markup will be significant though. Just look up the Mercedes Classic division. They can and will get you any part for any Mercedes ever made, far from cheap though.
I'd have a hard time believing they don't already have a full list of every part for every Porsche that is not on the shelf with a plan to fix that.
People who balk at the cost of a Greg Brown fuel line set will change their tune when they see the price on the factory supplied "new" lines.
The cost of a Porsche supplied water pump says it all.
Once this is up and running, someone needs to place an order for a "body in white" and see what the price quote comes back as.
People who balk at the cost of a Greg Brown fuel line set will change their tune when they see the price on the factory supplied "new" lines.
The cost of a Porsche supplied water pump says it all.
Once this is up and running, someone needs to place an order for a "body in white" and see what the price quote comes back as.
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But I don't want the body in white, I want it in Black.
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Porsche is in the process of opening a new network of service centers specifically focused on its classic cars. By 2018, the German automaker aims to have 100 such locations up and running around the world. What you're looking at here is the first.
This will be neat. I wonder when they will announce the other locations?
This will be neat. I wonder when they will announce the other locations?
Building a car on the factory assembly line is completely different than restoring a car. On an assembly line, multiple people do tiny little jobs to assemble the car. Doubtfully any of those people know how to build the entire car.
Restoration is completely different.
I know where every screw, nut, bolt, piece goes on a 928. When I'm training a new mechanic, it takes me about 2 years to get them to the point where they can be turned loose and trusted to do things correctly.
Where are the people with the mechanical ability to do this job going to come from....and who has the knowledge to train them?
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Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
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Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
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Interesting stuff.
Building a car on the factory assembly line is completely different than restoring a car. On an assembly line, multiple people do tiny little jobs to assemble the car. Doubtfully any of those people know how to build the entire car.
Restoration is completely different.
I know where every screw, nut, bolt, piece goes on a 928. When I'm training a new mechanic, it takes me about 2 years to get them to the point where they can be turned loose and trusted to do things correctly.
Where are the people with the mechanical ability to do this job going to come from....and who has the knowledge to train them?
Building a car on the factory assembly line is completely different than restoring a car. On an assembly line, multiple people do tiny little jobs to assemble the car. Doubtfully any of those people know how to build the entire car.
Restoration is completely different.
I know where every screw, nut, bolt, piece goes on a 928. When I'm training a new mechanic, it takes me about 2 years to get them to the point where they can be turned loose and trusted to do things correctly.
Where are the people with the mechanical ability to do this job going to come from....and who has the knowledge to train them?
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Greg could be the Dean of the School of 928s. And probably the Master's Program Director for 951s. And 993s, 964s, 911s. And the Associate's program in 356s.
Maybe I qualify to sweep floors there? I'd do it.
Maybe I qualify to sweep floors there? I'd do it.
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Greg could be the Dean of the School of 928s. And probably the Master's Program Director for 951s. And 993s, 964s, 911s. And the Associate's program in 356s.
Maybe I qualify to sweep floors for Porsche Classic? I'd do it.
Maybe I qualify to sweep floors for Porsche Classic? I'd do it.
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