mikeb7

From another thread:

So this is to clarify what you have and what you'll need.

You'll need the tensioners from an '87+ engine. I think brand new tensioners will come with new pads. If you get used tensioners, you should probably suck it up and buy the ridiculously overpriced upper and lower pads so you can install the tensioners with good pads.

If you get new tensioners, they won't have banjo bolts. The '85 engine has two of the four that you'll need, so you'll need to get the other two. I am referring to part#: 928 105 476 00. Due to the slight plumbing differences from '85 to '86 I'm not sure if the '86 has two or all four banjo bolts that you'll need.

The washers on the bolts that secure the tensioner to the head on the '85 are too large to work on the updated tensioner. The bolts from the tensioners I bought used did not have washers even though PET says they should have them. I didn't bother with washers. I have no reason to think that those tensioners had ever been touched prior to me removing them, so I assume that Hans or Fritz had too many beers with lunch the day they built that engine. I didn't bother to look for replacements.

The oil pipes cause the most confusion and they should. If you have a '85, you will need to replace both oil pipes. On the passenger side, you use part#: 928 105 213 03. On the driver's side, you use part#: 928 105 214 04 and you will have to bend it to make it fit properly. If you have a '86 you will already have the correct pipe for the passenger side. I read somewhere that the '86 also has the correct pipe on the driver's side as well.

A final note on washers. Whether '85/'86 or '87+, PET shows that two washers are used on the banjo fitting of the oil pipe where it attaches to the head. On the '89 that I took the tensioners from, there was only one washer between the head of the banjo bolt and the banjo fitting, but there was none between the fitting and the head. It was the same when I removed the tensioners from my '85 as well. The reason I raise this point is because a lot of people talk about changing their tensioner pads and always ask what size the washer is because they think they dropped the lower one into the oil pan. I'm beginning to wonder if a lot of these cars simply didn't have that second washer when the engine was built.

Hope this helps.

davek9

You are Almost correct, and I know what I need and what is available as I've done this several times, however the parts in question are now NLA
Please re-read my last post.

And note all '86's do not have the same Tensioners from the factory, as I already said the later ones were using the S4 tensioners and had the correct pipes, early 86 do not and require the same parts as an 85.

edit: as far as the banjo bolt washers, yes I've see both too, no washer on the banjo to head and also a washer used there, always two used on the tensioner end.


So what is the best way to reshape the pipes, just bend them slowly, heat or no heat?

Thanks!

GregBBRD

Probably not. I'll be over there in the next few days...let me see if they have any and hand them the pieces.

gb

Dan87951

Thanks Greg!