Water leak, new one on me.
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Water leak, new one on me.
Been chasing a water leak for a few weeks, wasn't loosing much but as far as I could tell it was coming from the rear of the engine but couldn't see anything leaking, I could see some coolant drips on the rear edge of the belly pan on the passenger side below the heater valve. So today I decided to have another look, I carefully removed the rear belly pan, there was some coolant on the passenger side of the pan.
I then drove the car to warm it up, back in the garage I gave the heater valve a prod, I had my nose in there looking to see if I could see a leak when there was like a mini explosion and I'm covered in hot water and steam, after I recovered my composure! I could see what had happened, the tubular pipe that the short hose fits on to had come out of the housing that bolts to the cylinder head, I guess this tubular insert must of been working its way out and that where the leak was.
I then drove the car to warm it up, back in the garage I gave the heater valve a prod, I had my nose in there looking to see if I could see a leak when there was like a mini explosion and I'm covered in hot water and steam, after I recovered my composure! I could see what had happened, the tubular pipe that the short hose fits on to had come out of the housing that bolts to the cylinder head, I guess this tubular insert must of been working its way out and that where the leak was.
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that's a new one on me too. Usually the short hose fails.
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Porsche is getting better at this kind of failure, they have it down to under 15 years with the 996 and 997's.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...quired-de.html
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...quired-de.html
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Porsche is getting better at this kind of failure, they have it down to under 15 years with the 996 and 997's.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...quired-de.html
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...quired-de.html
JB Weld is the generally accepted fix for the 957. Replacing the whole part is an "engine out" job.
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Porsche has two versions of that. I usually replace it with the one piece version but have JB Welded ones in the field as a quick fix. Seems to hold up fine.
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928 104 713 02 is the updated single-piece part. This failure is becoming more-and-more common as the original press-fit adapter fatigues from heat cycles.
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Those pictures look all too familiar. See post #10, it's from my '87 a few months ago:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-question.html
I used the newer one-piece design to fix this for good (I hope).
More info here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ter-necks.html
I also cleaned up my original two-piece part and JB welded it together. I haven't used it, and it's free to anyone that wants it if you don't mind paying the shipping. I can post pictures of the part if anyone is interested. Personally I like the one-piece design better, but I also hate junking a part that someone could use if desired -- even as a backup.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-question.html
I used the newer one-piece design to fix this for good (I hope).
More info here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ter-necks.html
I also cleaned up my original two-piece part and JB welded it together. I haven't used it, and it's free to anyone that wants it if you don't mind paying the shipping. I can post pictures of the part if anyone is interested. Personally I like the one-piece design better, but I also hate junking a part that someone could use if desired -- even as a backup.
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Also if after you use JB or replace with the one piece unit, there is a gasket under the piece where it bolts onto the block. If your repair with JB is good and you have a little trickle in that area consider the gasket. If you're going to replace unit, be sure to have one.
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Those pictures look all too familiar. See post #10, it's from my '87 a few months ago:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-question.html
I used the newer one-piece design to fix this for good (I hope).
More info here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ter-necks.html
I also cleaned up my original two-piece part and JB welded it together. I haven't used it, and it's free to anyone that wants it if you don't mind paying the shipping. I can post pictures of the part if anyone is interested. Personally I like the one-piece design better, but I also hate junking a part that someone could use if desired -- even as a backup.
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...-question.html
I used the newer one-piece design to fix this for good (I hope).
More info here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ter-necks.html
I also cleaned up my original two-piece part and JB welded it together. I haven't used it, and it's free to anyone that wants it if you don't mind paying the shipping. I can post pictures of the part if anyone is interested. Personally I like the one-piece design better, but I also hate junking a part that someone could use if desired -- even as a backup.