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Old 07-05-2018, 05:01 PM
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One more place for reading is Clark's Garage:

http://www.clarks-garage.com/

Click on 951 FAQ on the left.
Lots and lots of great info there, it has often been referred to as our "bible!"
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My 89 951 had a sticker of $49k. In 1989 money that was a lot of coin. It's a wonder they sold as many as they did.
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
In the US, the '89 came with air bags. Interesting to see your car without them. I know the original '88 Silber Rosa S brochure also shows the car without airbags, so it was apparently a country-by-country thing.
Airbags were only standard on USA-market Turbos (and S2s) starting with the 87 model year. AFAIK, they became optional on all 944s in all markets at that time. The option cost just under 3k when introduced; it is extremely rare on cars in which it is not standard.

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currently nicknamed the "blueberry filled banana," It seems fitting.
Fitting indeed! Have fun.
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If you'd like to find out specifically how the car started (color, options, etc.), there is a sticker in the back underneath the trunk carpet. It is directly behind the license plate.

Originally Posted by DeanErb
I know the brakes are from the 928 S4, were any other parts borrowed from the Porsche lineup, anything from the 911?
To my knowledge, nothing unique to the Turbo S was specifically shared with a 911 model. I could be wrong however. Small hardware, trims and other bits are often shared between all models though.

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Old 07-08-2018, 11:24 AM
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Interesting, I have two of these cars, an 88 Turbo-s Silver/Rose (Which is now my Blue Racecar see avatar) and an 89, I was wondering why it didnt have headlight washers, but is has all the other stuff factory EQ, LSD Forged wheels, NO Split rear seat...

FYI, There is a HUGE 944 Following up in Canada, if you haven't already Join the UCR Porsche Club allot a GREAT resources and they also have a 944 e-mail list, There was just a Tech Session up near Hamilton if im not mistaken. Im just over the border and will have a tech session soon and will invite the UCR to participate.
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Thank you again everyone for the info.

If anyone was interested, I created a post on my site with as much info and pictures as I could.

I will be devoting a section of the site to the 944 as I discover more and accomplish more work on my own 951.

You can check out the post here,

https://www.deancent.com/cars-archiv...sche-944-turbo

If anyone finds any errors or room for improvement let me know and I can update it.
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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

If you'd like to find out specifically how the car started (color, options, etc.), there is a sticker in the back underneath the trunk carpet. It is directly behind the license plate.



To my knowledge, nothing unique to the Turbo S was specifically shared with a 911 model. I could be wrong however. Small hardware, trims and other bits are often shared between all models though.
Unfortunately, that option sticker has been removed on my car. At some point the back of the car under the carpet has been sprayed, likely the same time the whole color was changed and the sticker has been removed. Any other known way to confirm original options without the sticker?

Also if I'm not mistaking, aren't the rear brakes from the 911 and the front from the 928 S4?
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I don't think there are many Canadian spec 944 series cars that came with airbags. My Silverrose 88S didn't have them and I've only seen them on American cars.
Old 12-19-2022, 02:21 PM
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Long overdue update.

A ton of progress has been completed on this car in the 5+ years I've owned it.
  • Entire fuel system replaced short of replacing the fuel tank itself - Replace Entire 944 Fuel System
    • Installed adjustable fuel pressure regulator with gauge
    • Installed modern Bosch injectors
    • Installed Bosch 044 Fuel Pump
    • 928sRUs fuel tank strainer threaded insert
    • Custom built 6AN fuel hoses and fittings
    • Replaced all hardlines 3/8 and 5/16 Cupro nickel
    • New aluminum fuel rail on the way from Devin Lyons
  • Troubleshot several electrical problems which included:
    • Fuse panel connector broken under fuse panel causing fuel pump failure and DME Relays to blow (cause of most of my no-start problems)
    • Backtracked POs wiring attempt to bypass dme relay forcing pump to run
    • Horn not working, no continuity through intermediate shaft and plate behind steering wheel
    • Replaced Reference sensors as both were damaged
    • Current draw on window, trunk, sunroof circuits and anti-lock braking system
    • Removed POs custom relay from passenger door to force mirrors to work which shorted out several wires
    • Removed several feet of 12 AWG industrial stranded wire from under hood, dash, up A-pillar and drivers door and replaced with appropriate gauge wiring
    • Ran new 12AWG wire from battery to new 044 Fuel pump relay controlled by existing wiring
    • Replaced shorted out starter and alternator cables due to PO running them over the turbo downpipe with 4AWG
    • Replaced main grounds with 1AWG
    • Toned out stock stereo wiring to re-use
  • Control arms rebuilt - Rennbay Kit
  • New to me engine from John Graves to replace '89 block with low compression
    • Replaced most gaskets and seals
    • New ACL Rod Bearings
    • New Pilot Bearing
  • Replaced pressure plate (already had a spec stage 2 clutch installed)
  • Rebuilt clutch fork with new pin and Oilite bushings by Markus Blaszak
  • Replaced numerous cracked hoses including J-boot
  • Refinished most hardware under the hood in Yellow Chromate
  • Replaced intermediate shaft with custom Borgeson U-joints and aluminum splined shaft
  • Replaced Lindsey Racing dual port wastegate with Tial F38mm wastegate from Frank Zappa
  • Installed AEM wideband
  • Full Paintjob including all jambs and engine bay
There's lots more not listed and tons more to come. I'll try to update more often.

Short list of still to do:
  • Tune on dyno at Mantis Autosport - Jon Dunski &* Dirk Dünschede
  • Install stereo, speakers and sub
  • Swap out blue clubsports wheels for satin black ROH ZR6 5-spoke wheels
  • Swap out PO's silver painted interior pieces with factory dark grey
  • Re-install all black interior
  • Install black headliner and other interior leather/vinyl trim pieces
  • Tint windows slightly
  • Replace amber bumper and rear quarter panel lenses with clear then smoke lightly
  • Smoke fogs and taillights
  • Install satin black splitter
  • Install Momo Prototipo wheel with leather Porsche embossed horn button
  • Replace 4" exhaust tip with something more suitable and likely ceramic coat satin black



Fuse panel connector that was not seated due to missing tab causing fuel pump failure and blown DME relays. (took a long time to troubleshoot this one)

Missing Tab on Fuse panel connector causing fuel pump failure and blown DME relays

New Rennbay ball joints

New to me '86 block


Replacing rod bearings and oil pick up seals and pan gasket

Refreshed engine ready to drop in

Old intermediate shaft compared to new before cutting aluminum shaft to size


Tial F38 Wastegate Install


Alignment at Mantis Autosport - Oakville Ontario











Black Momo Prototipo with leather Porsche embossed horn button

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Old 12-20-2022, 12:33 AM
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Wow. Great to see there are still some of us 944/951 nuts out there 😂

Awesome work. Painting is one thing I’d like to try but to afraid I’d run out steam and motivation.
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Kudos. Hell of a project.
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Originally Posted by 944M3
Wow. Great to see there are still some of us 944/951 nuts out there 😂

Awesome work. Painting is one thing I’d like to try but to afraid I’d run out steam and motivation.
There sure are 😁

Painting is a large undertaking, I wish I just sent it to a bodyshop from the get go.

Originally Posted by Sam Lin
Kudos. Hell of a project.
Thank you, it certainly was.


Here is a much further in depth write up on this with a few before and after pictures. https://www.deancent.com/the-worst-p...4-turbo-saved/


Before and after 944 Turbo restoration




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