Notices
944 Turbo and Turbo-S Forum 1982-1991
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Clore Automotive

Need help with DME/KLR plug connector (Update: Problem solved [pics])

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-03-2006, 10:58 AM
  #1  
951Porschiste
Addict
Rennlist Member

Thread Starter
 
951Porschiste's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South of the St-Lawrence river
Posts: 1,498
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Question Need help with DME/KLR plug connector (Update: Problem solved [pics])

I'm in the process of installing the LR injector and knock sensor harness. The included instructions say to plug the new wires into DME pins #14, 15 and KLR pins #11, 12, 13.
My question is how do I remove the existing metal plugs in the DME and KLR connectors? I figured there must be an easy trick to this but I guess I'm just too thick to figure it out.


Below is a close-up picture of the KLR connector showing the metal plugs for pin # 11, 12, 13. I'm able to move them up and down a little bit but they seem to be catching on something.


Last edited by 951Porschiste; 06-03-2006 at 05:35 PM.
Old 06-03-2006, 11:35 AM
  #2  
jimbo1111
Banned
 
jimbo1111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 3,687
Received 36 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Why are you removing them? Aren't you suppose to just tap into the line?
Old 06-03-2006, 11:35 AM
  #3  
Tom M'Guinn

Rennlist Member
 
Tom M'Guinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Just CA Now :)
Posts: 12,567
Received 533 Likes on 287 Posts
Default

I don't know about Lindsey's products, but normally you need to cut and splice into the wire themselves, rather than replacing the little metal pins in the connectors. Unless Lindsey gave you new pins to put in the connector (something like the pic below), there is no way to "plug in" a piece of wire into the back of an assembled connector like that.

Also, the insulation on that white wire looks a bit torn. Might want to inspect that closely to make sure the wires are no fraying.
Attached Images  
Old 06-03-2006, 11:40 AM
  #4  
951Porschiste
Addict
Rennlist Member

Thread Starter
 
951Porschiste's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South of the St-Lawrence river
Posts: 1,498
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
I don't know about Lindsey's products, but normally you need to cut and splice into the wire themselves, rather than replacing the little metal pins in the connectors. Unless Lindsey gave you new pins to put in the connector (something like the pic below), there is no way to "plug in" a piece of wire into the back of an assembled connector like that.

Also, the insulation on that white wire looks a bit torn. Might want to inspect that closely to make sure the wires are no fraying.
The LR harness wires come with the metal pins already on them. So again any trick to removing the old metal pins from the plastic connector?

Here's a picture of the wires provided by LR:


Last edited by 951Porschiste; 06-03-2006 at 11:50 AM. Reason: Adding a picture
Old 06-03-2006, 11:50 AM
  #5  
Tom M'Guinn

Rennlist Member
 
Tom M'Guinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Just CA Now :)
Posts: 12,567
Received 533 Likes on 287 Posts
Default

Wow, nice product!

The pins in the picture you show are held in place with little barbs on the other side. They made special "pin extractors" to get them out, but sometimes you can push the barbs in with needles, etc. See an example of multi-purpose extractors here:

http://www.eagleday.com/ampconnectors.html
Old 06-03-2006, 11:55 AM
  #6  
951Porschiste
Addict
Rennlist Member

Thread Starter
 
951Porschiste's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South of the St-Lawrence river
Posts: 1,498
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn
Wow, nice product!

The pins in the picture you show are held in place with little barbs on the other side. They made special "pin extractors" to get them out, but sometimes you can push the barbs in with needles, etc. See an example of multi-purpose extractors here:

http://www.eagleday.com/ampconnectors.html
Thanks for the link. BTW I ordered some new 3-way female plugs for the Speed and reference sensors from EagleDay.com last week. I wonder how long it'll take to ship up here to Canada. In the meantime, I'll try and find this special "pin extractor" at the local electronics store.
Old 06-03-2006, 11:59 AM
  #7  
kwdrus
Racer
 
kwdrus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The connectors on the LR wires are not installed correctly. the crimp closest to the insulation should actually be crimped over the insulation. It make for a much stronger union, but it will still work.
Old 06-03-2006, 05:34 PM
  #8  
951Porschiste
Addict
Rennlist Member

Thread Starter
 
951Porschiste's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South of the St-Lawrence river
Posts: 1,498
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Problem solved!

To remove the metal pins from the plastic connector, you need a special tool that will disengage the "locking tab" (see arrow in next picture):



I went to the local electronic store (ex-Radio-Shack, they are now called "The Source by Circuit City" in Canada) and could not find an adequate tool. So I decided to fabricate my own using a 1.5 mm allen wrench which I tapered down (see next picture) using a Dremel rotary tool.



Once I had the modified allen wrench, I tend inserted this tool down the little plastic valley of the connector as seen in the next picture. This disengaged the "locking tab" and then I just had to pull on the wire to take it out.



And Voilà! Problem Solved!
Old 06-03-2006, 08:03 PM
  #9  
Tom M'Guinn

Rennlist Member
 
Tom M'Guinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Just CA Now :)
Posts: 12,567
Received 533 Likes on 287 Posts
Default

Nice work making your own pin extractor. With you could make one for me so I could get the pin out of my broken Zeitronix connector. It's only 3mm, and none of my local electronics shops have an extractor small enough -- and I live in the heart of Silicon Valley...
Old 06-05-2006, 01:26 PM
  #10  
testarossa_td
Race Car
 
testarossa_td's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: State of Confusion
Posts: 3,696
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the write-up.
Beautiful MACRO shots! Can't beat the Nikons for Macros.
I used an xacto jewelers set of screw drivers for extracting my pins.(second to the smallest I think)
It is equipped with 0.7mm, 0.9mm, 1.2mm, 1.6mm, and 2.0 mm.



Some I think have used bobby pins(search..)
Old 06-05-2006, 04:12 PM
  #11  
951Porschiste
Addict
Rennlist Member

Thread Starter
 
951Porschiste's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: South of the St-Lawrence river
Posts: 1,498
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by testarossa_td
Thanks for the write-up.
Beautiful MACRO shots! Can't beat the Nikons for Macros.
I used an xacto jewelers set of screw drivers for extracting my pins.(second to the smallest I think)
It is equipped with 0.7mm, 0.9mm, 1.2mm, 1.6mm, and 2.0 mm.



Some I think have used bobby pins(search..)
I had a set of these at the office. I just did not want to come in to the office on a Saturday!

Macro shots: Nikon D70s with 105 mm Macro lens and ring flash.



Quick Reply: Need help with DME/KLR plug connector (Update: Problem solved [pics])



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 02:46 PM.