86 951 Dyno Tuning results
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86 951 Dyno Tuning results
Forgive me, this is a repost from the main 924/944/968 forum, I haven't posted on Rennlist for about a year and forgot about the 951 sub-forum.
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Over the holidays (and routine maintenance) I had my 1986 951 dyno-tuned and I'm very pleased with the results - up 20 horsepower and 40 lb-ft, and both curves moved left 500-1000 RPM sooner (meaning the power comes sooner/lower down). I'll post the graph as soon as my scanner cooperates.
Power mods are:
- B&B Tri-Flow headers
- FabSpeed exhaust w/o cat
- Lindsey Boost Enhancer
- Old stock-mapping chips
Coming in, the car made:
251 whp @ 5500 RPM
237 lb-ft @ 5000 RPM
After tuning:
269 whp @ 5400 RPM
277 lb-ft @ 4400 RPM
which, assuming a 16% transmission loss (M5 tranny) should put it roughly at 320 bhp and 330 ft-lb at the flywheel.
Apparently the car used to be running rich (it runs great now, much smoother under acceleration), and it also had a very weird harmonic balance issue on the dyno that would cause it to shudder at certain rpms (yet it is fine on the road).
I'm pleased with the results, especially the big gain in torque. The added volume under the torque curve is impressive, as you'll see when I post the chart.
So, what do you think? Good results? I'm curious to know other people's results, both in stock form and modded to roughly the same degree as mine.
Thanks to the crew at PowerTech in Rockaway, NJ.
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1986 Porsche 944 Turbo
2000 Pontiac Trans Am
2002 Jeep Liberty Sport
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Over the holidays (and routine maintenance) I had my 1986 951 dyno-tuned and I'm very pleased with the results - up 20 horsepower and 40 lb-ft, and both curves moved left 500-1000 RPM sooner (meaning the power comes sooner/lower down). I'll post the graph as soon as my scanner cooperates.
Power mods are:
- B&B Tri-Flow headers
- FabSpeed exhaust w/o cat
- Lindsey Boost Enhancer
- Old stock-mapping chips
Coming in, the car made:
251 whp @ 5500 RPM
237 lb-ft @ 5000 RPM
After tuning:
269 whp @ 5400 RPM
277 lb-ft @ 4400 RPM
which, assuming a 16% transmission loss (M5 tranny) should put it roughly at 320 bhp and 330 ft-lb at the flywheel.
Apparently the car used to be running rich (it runs great now, much smoother under acceleration), and it also had a very weird harmonic balance issue on the dyno that would cause it to shudder at certain rpms (yet it is fine on the road).
I'm pleased with the results, especially the big gain in torque. The added volume under the torque curve is impressive, as you'll see when I post the chart.
So, what do you think? Good results? I'm curious to know other people's results, both in stock form and modded to roughly the same degree as mine.
Thanks to the crew at PowerTech in Rockaway, NJ.
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1986 Porsche 944 Turbo
2000 Pontiac Trans Am
2002 Jeep Liberty Sport
Last edited by Joe Anstett; 01-20-2007 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Added dyno scan
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Originally Posted by Joe Anstett
Forgive me, this is a repost from the main 924/944/968 forum, I haven't posted on Rennlist for about a year and forgot about the 951 sub-forum.
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Over the holidays (and routine maintenance) I had my 1986 951 dyno-tuned and I'm very pleased with the results - up 20 horsepower and 40 lb-ft, and both curves moved left 500-1000 RPM sooner (meaning the power comes sooner/lower down). I'll post the graph as soon as my scanner cooperates.
Power mods are:
- B&B Tri-Flow headers
- FabSpeed exhaust w/o cat
- Lindsey Boost Enhancer
- Old stock-mapping chips
Coming in, the car made:
251 whp @ 5500 RPM
237 lb-ft @ 5000 RPM
After tuning:
269 whp @ 5400 RPM
277 lb-ft @ 4400 RPM
which, assuming a 16% transmission loss (M5 tranny) should put it roughly at 320 bhp and 330 ft-lb at the flywheel.
Apparently the car used to be running rich (it runs great now, much smoother under acceleration), and it also had a very weird harmonic balance issue on the dyno that would cause it to shudder at certain rpms (yet it is fine on the road).
I'm pleased with the results, especially the big gain in torque. The added volume under the torque curve is impressive, as you'll see when I post the chart.
So, what do you think? Good results? I'm curious to know other people's results, both in stock form and modded to roughly the same degree as mine.
Thanks to the crew at PowerTech in Rockaway, NJ.
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1986 Porsche 944 Turbo
2000 Pontiac Trans Am
2002 Jeep Liberty Sport
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Over the holidays (and routine maintenance) I had my 1986 951 dyno-tuned and I'm very pleased with the results - up 20 horsepower and 40 lb-ft, and both curves moved left 500-1000 RPM sooner (meaning the power comes sooner/lower down). I'll post the graph as soon as my scanner cooperates.
Power mods are:
- B&B Tri-Flow headers
- FabSpeed exhaust w/o cat
- Lindsey Boost Enhancer
- Old stock-mapping chips
Coming in, the car made:
251 whp @ 5500 RPM
237 lb-ft @ 5000 RPM
After tuning:
269 whp @ 5400 RPM
277 lb-ft @ 4400 RPM
which, assuming a 16% transmission loss (M5 tranny) should put it roughly at 320 bhp and 330 ft-lb at the flywheel.
Apparently the car used to be running rich (it runs great now, much smoother under acceleration), and it also had a very weird harmonic balance issue on the dyno that would cause it to shudder at certain rpms (yet it is fine on the road).
I'm pleased with the results, especially the big gain in torque. The added volume under the torque curve is impressive, as you'll see when I post the chart.
So, what do you think? Good results? I'm curious to know other people's results, both in stock form and modded to roughly the same degree as mine.
Thanks to the crew at PowerTech in Rockaway, NJ.
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1986 Porsche 944 Turbo
2000 Pontiac Trans Am
2002 Jeep Liberty Sport
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Interesting. I had mine dyno'ed a couple weeks ago when it had:
LR Boost enhancer
WG Shims
951MAX chips
3" exhaust (no cat)
And I got something like 227 hp and 249 ft/lbs tq
I find it wierd that I got more tq and you got more hp
LR Boost enhancer
WG Shims
951MAX chips
3" exhaust (no cat)
And I got something like 227 hp and 249 ft/lbs tq
I find it wierd that I got more tq and you got more hp
Originally Posted by Joe Anstett
Forgive me, this is a repost from the main 924/944/968 forum, I haven't posted on Rennlist for about a year and forgot about the 951 sub-forum.
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Over the holidays (and routine maintenance) I had my 1986 951 dyno-tuned and I'm very pleased with the results - up 20 horsepower and 40 lb-ft, and both curves moved left 500-1000 RPM sooner (meaning the power comes sooner/lower down). I'll post the graph as soon as my scanner cooperates.
Power mods are:
- B&B Tri-Flow headers
- FabSpeed exhaust w/o cat
- Lindsey Boost Enhancer
- Old stock-mapping chips
Coming in, the car made:
251 whp @ 5500 RPM
237 lb-ft @ 5000 RPM
After tuning:
269 whp @ 5400 RPM
277 lb-ft @ 4400 RPM
which, assuming a 16% transmission loss (M5 tranny) should put it roughly at 320 bhp and 330 ft-lb at the flywheel.
Apparently the car used to be running rich (it runs great now, much smoother under acceleration), and it also had a very weird harmonic balance issue on the dyno that would cause it to shudder at certain rpms (yet it is fine on the road).
I'm pleased with the results, especially the big gain in torque. The added volume under the torque curve is impressive, as you'll see when I post the chart.
So, what do you think? Good results? I'm curious to know other people's results, both in stock form and modded to roughly the same degree as mine.
Thanks to the crew at PowerTech in Rockaway, NJ.
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1986 Porsche 944 Turbo
2000 Pontiac Trans Am
2002 Jeep Liberty Sport
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Over the holidays (and routine maintenance) I had my 1986 951 dyno-tuned and I'm very pleased with the results - up 20 horsepower and 40 lb-ft, and both curves moved left 500-1000 RPM sooner (meaning the power comes sooner/lower down). I'll post the graph as soon as my scanner cooperates.
Power mods are:
- B&B Tri-Flow headers
- FabSpeed exhaust w/o cat
- Lindsey Boost Enhancer
- Old stock-mapping chips
Coming in, the car made:
251 whp @ 5500 RPM
237 lb-ft @ 5000 RPM
After tuning:
269 whp @ 5400 RPM
277 lb-ft @ 4400 RPM
which, assuming a 16% transmission loss (M5 tranny) should put it roughly at 320 bhp and 330 ft-lb at the flywheel.
Apparently the car used to be running rich (it runs great now, much smoother under acceleration), and it also had a very weird harmonic balance issue on the dyno that would cause it to shudder at certain rpms (yet it is fine on the road).
I'm pleased with the results, especially the big gain in torque. The added volume under the torque curve is impressive, as you'll see when I post the chart.
So, what do you think? Good results? I'm curious to know other people's results, both in stock form and modded to roughly the same degree as mine.
Thanks to the crew at PowerTech in Rockaway, NJ.
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1986 Porsche 944 Turbo
2000 Pontiac Trans Am
2002 Jeep Liberty Sport
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Interesting - this is with a K26/6? How much boost?
I had my car dyno'ed recently at a conservative boost setting to see how my AFR was going; see sig for mods. I got 202.9 kW at the wheels (which is around 270 HP) at around 5200 RPM.
I had my car dyno'ed recently at a conservative boost setting to see how my AFR was going; see sig for mods. I got 202.9 kW at the wheels (which is around 270 HP) at around 5200 RPM.
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I still haven't figured out why mine makes so much power (relatively speaking, only a chip and cat-less pipe). I've dyno'd about 5 cars at this shop too so I know it's accurate.
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http://members.***.net/andywheaton/9...est%20Pipe.JPG
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Joe: how much boost?
Weedo, what boost was that at? I got 313rwtq at about 3800rpms-ish? and then it tappered down to 11.5psi at redline so i only got 251RWHP. my turbo has 174k miles on it w/o a rebuild also so i didnt expect it to have any larger of numbers. (26/6 btw).
Weedo, what boost was that at? I got 313rwtq at about 3800rpms-ish? and then it tappered down to 11.5psi at redline so i only got 251RWHP. my turbo has 174k miles on it w/o a rebuild also so i didnt expect it to have any larger of numbers. (26/6 btw).
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Yes, the stock turbo (K26/6), IIRC running between 1.1-1.2 bar (16-ish PSI?).
My crappy HP scanner has died (looks like the motor is jammed), so I'll have to buy a new one before I get that graph up.
My crappy HP scanner has died (looks like the motor is jammed), so I'll have to buy a new one before I get that graph up.
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Originally Posted by JE_951
Joe: how much boost?
Weedo, what boost was that at? I got 313rwtq at about 3800rpms-ish? and then it tappered down to 11.5psi at redline so i only got 251RWHP. my turbo has 174k miles on it w/o a rebuild also so i didnt expect it to have any larger of numbers. (26/6 btw).
Weedo, what boost was that at? I got 313rwtq at about 3800rpms-ish? and then it tappered down to 11.5psi at redline so i only got 251RWHP. my turbo has 174k miles on it w/o a rebuild also so i didnt expect it to have any larger of numbers. (26/6 btw).
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WOW! I would say great numbers.
you running boost controller to get 16lbs? or shimmed /upgraded wastegate? That seems too much without somthing else going on
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My bet is you got chips and just don't know it yet
WOW! I would say great numbers.
you running boost controller to get 16lbs? or shimmed /upgraded wastegate? That seems too much without somthing else going on
edit:
My bet is you got chips and just don't know it yet
Last edited by 2bridges; 01-21-2007 at 02:24 AM.