vanwyk4257

I spoke with my friend who is a tial dealer and I can get a group buy put together on tial wastegates. I did clear this with John D. so he is aware of it as well.

I was looking at a tial F38 for my car and I can get these for around $200 plus shipping. I will get the price nailed down once I know how many people are interested and what size wastegates they want.
Other tial wastegates may be more money, I didn't check on other models since this was the one I was after myself. That said, I can check on other models if you need a larger wastegate.

Please reply to this thread if you are interested and let me know what size wastegate you want if it is different than the F38. Here is a link to tial's website for product descriptions.

http://www.tialsport.com/

I would like to have at least 10 people interested if we're going to do this, obviously, the more the merrier.

Once we have a sufficient number of people interested I will get the final pricing nailed down and will email or PM everyone to make sure they're committed and then we can order the parts.

Please feel free to post any questions here as well.

Thanks!

ibkevin

That's a smok'n price, good deal!

Porsche-O-Phile

Good price - I'm interested although I was sort of hoping to get a 46mm - any chance of those? Regardless of whether it's a 38mm or a 46mm, would these come with the adapter plates and so-forth?

I'm in for one if it comes with everything (including adapters & gaskets), ready to bolt on. If I have to source adapters and gaskets elsewhere it'd probably be too much of a pain.

Thanks for setting this up.

35thSLP

what do we do about adapters for the tial waste gates?

Landjet

I would be interested in the F41 or F46 as soon a you can get a price with flanges.

MichelleJD

I might be interested in the 46; I currently have a 38.

vanwyk4257

Someone told me that Speedforce Racing makes adapters. At this point he doesn't have adapters in house. You would need to source them seperately.

I will get prices once more people have posted here with what size wastegate they're interested in.

I don't want to get too bogged down with extra parts frankly because he's doing this as a favor for me and he's running a rapidly growing business and rebuilding a motor for his 911 right now, so to be fair to him I don't want to make this overly complicated.

I may talk to him about fabricating adapters for these later on since he is probably going to use my car to prototype his own line of stainless steel exhaust for 951's.

Skip Wolfe

Talk to Tim at SFR about a group buy on adapters.

vanwyk4257

Skip,
I'll see what kind of interest is expressed here and then I will follow up with Tim. Thanks for the suggestion!

Bri Bro

Like Skip said, SFR sells the adapter for $110 but I am sure you could work out a GB with Tim.

Mighty Shilling

I have a friend who I KNOW will be interested... I'll point him this way (RapidCore)

Porsche-O-Phile

$200 for the Tial plus an additional $100 or more for seperately sourced, "might fit" adapters made by someone else isn't really all that great - no offense. You really should try to get this guy to do them as a kit like mySwiss does. If he can do that at the same or better price than mySwiss can do, he'll be one of the most popular guys around here.

Not trying to be an a-hole or rain on your parade, but 38mm Tials aren't all that expensive without the adapter plates. Here's links to a half dozen under $200 that I found in about 30 seconds on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Tial-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TiAL-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TIAL-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/REAL-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/REAL-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/REAL-...QQcmdZViewItem

Look, thanks for trying to set this up, but all I'm saying is it would be a LOT better and your boy would get a lot more interest if he was selling a "ready-to-go" Tial kit for the 951. The actual wastegates themselves are dime-a-dozen.

ryanm6100

Thanks for pointing that out, Jeff....I'm glad I didn't sign up for one yet. But I WILL be interested if there is a GB for the mounting harware!

Ryan

ckathens

Jeff:

The problem with eBay is that there are a fair amount of Tial knock-offs being sold as Tial.

Also, the price is different depending on the spring. There's alot of Tial 38mm's being sold with 0.5, 0.6 and 0.7 springs for less than the 0.8 and 1.0 springs. For instance, that first link you posted comes with a 0.5 or 0.6 spring, the 2nd with 0.6 spring, etc.. Of course with a MBC, it seems the lower spring rates aren't that big of a deal.

I would assume the group buy Tial here would come with the 0.8 or 1.0 spring, as those are the springs closest to stock 951 boost (and being sold right now by Europartsetc (mySwiss) and SFR.

Europartsetc has the kit for $335.99 (with very nice stainless steel adapter flanges, bolts, and 0.8 bar spring), with free shipping. That's the deal I got in on. The adapter flanges by themselves are $145. SFR has a kit which includes the adapter flanges, bolts & 0.8 bar spring for $369.00 They have their adapters by themselves for $119.

vanwyk4257

If there are better deals out there that's fine. I know he would be making basically just enough to cover his paperwork and shipping to his business. if the deal isn't good enough at that price we don't have to do it. I'm just seeing if this is something people want in on. It's no big deal to me one way or the other. I'm not sure what I am going to do personally at this point either, but I wanted to offer this to the Rennlist community for discussion.